Return of Reckoning

Gerv wrote: 2) WL suffer from AP issues with their rotation, drop the AP drain on them as the first few things you do.

Out of curiosity exactly what AP-issues does a WL have outside of pet sumon? (that you do in advance)

If you're dying to a WL as a geared Shaman, you're doing something wrong. As said by Tolda, good Shamans, like Morfee, are known for tanking several at a time: wl blow their steam in 5 seconds or so, lack a heal debuff, and with pounce now on a 10 sec cd you can kite them a lot easier/use your KB right after they pounce and gg.

its funny how a "y u nerf shaman" thread completely derailed into a "nerf WL" thread :^)

Shamans are pretty good at this moment, i kinda like the new mechanics and if well spec'd and geared on 1vs1 a WL will just tickles you.

Having played a RR100 WL on Live, I can tell you that a WL is all about front loaded burst and is especially effective against clothes.

You very quickly take the sting out of its tail if you AP drain it and CC it with snares, etc. Ideally, like I can do on my Black Guard, you also debuff their crit chance as the burst is directly related to how much they crit.

Furthermore, their burst damage is linked to a large extent to their pit (I.e. Pack hunting tactic, etc) so if you can you down their pet first, which makes the WL much less of a threat until they can resommon.

Finally, and I am not saying you aren't (but if you aren't, you should), healers should spec defensively. Willpower scales terribly, and just base willpower stats from your gear are typically all that you need. Instead, stack armour talismen, spec some RR defensively and perhaps get Resolute Defense so you can pop it when the pet tries to pull you.

You tend to live aslong as detaunt is up and Cleansing Wind, RD and potions is off CD If you're not out of harms way after that then it's over. Sham can't handle WL at all with it's core skills If the Shaman runs away just fetch him back or Pounce.
Its a complete hardcounter to Shamans

Shaman whine.....


Priceless...

roadkillrobin wrote:You tend to live aslong as detaunt is up and Cleansing Wind, RD and potions is off CD If you're not out of harms way after that then it's over. Sham can't handle WL at all with it's core skills If the Shaman runs away just fetch him back or Pounce.
Its a complete hardcounter to Shamans

A high-geared WL against a bad Shaman, sure. But equally-skilled opponents, a Shaman should not lose to a DPS that lacks a heal debuff. Ask Morfee for tips.

shamans cant die against anything 1vs1...
back on live even with worn sovereign u could lol at full warp forged dps trying to kill you...
here its even easier

warislove wrote:shamans cant die against anything 1vs1...
back on live even with worn sovereign u could lol at full warp forged dps trying to kill you...
here its even easier

No it's not x) (rip odjira/QE/full TB)