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Re: Shaman T4 advice/question

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:29 pm
by CeeJay89
shaggyboomboom wrote:
CeeJay89 wrote:All excellent advice. Unfortunately, I already actively do most if not all of this, so I suppose I can chalk it up to being underleveled and hence undergeared.

No big deal. It's just a jarring change going from T3 where your nigh invincible to anything less than zerging, to the massacre that awaits you at the start of T4.

Speaking of T3, and a little off topic, what are the best debolster equips for T2/T3? I know T3 is locked at 28.

- what level is the Mayhem set? What bonuses does it offer?
-I saw Stalker, but unfortunately it seems the armor is lv. 30. Decimator also hits 29 for the head and body.

Just curious. Sounds like it may be fun to do on the side sometimes when T4 gets overly frustrating.

Edit: Is a full healing Mork Shaman any good? I really enjoy Da Green, but I'm finding it sometimes frustrating when my ITT gets blocked/ disrupted or hell, absorbed.
If ITT gets blocked/disrupted, try just targeting MDPS. AFAIK ITT/BE bypass absorbs.
I was not aware it bypassed absorb. I feel like almost absolutely, there were a few times when I used ITT on a SM and they absorbed it and it returned nothing back to me or my team. Good to know otherwise, can anyone else confirm this?

Still wondering if anyone can shed some light on Mork vs Da Green. I really like Da Green, but part of me really wants that Toughness hot in Mork. I suppose I could experiment myself.

One big problem I'm having with my Shaman is keeping people up in large scale fights. I feel like I'm under performing compared to a DoK or Zealot in a lot of ways. Is this normal? In small scale groups of 3 or 6 I'm a green number producing machine. But once we get into warband scale, I'm not able to keep up people very well.

Also, where to get rank 24 - 28 purple gear?

Re: Shaman T4 advice/question

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:12 pm
by Thayli
CeeJay89 wrote:
Spoiler:
shaggyboomboom wrote:
CeeJay89 wrote:All excellent advice. Unfortunately, I already actively do most if not all of this, so I suppose I can chalk it up to being underleveled and hence undergeared.

No big deal. It's just a jarring change going from T3 where your nigh invincible to anything less than zerging, to the massacre that awaits you at the start of T4.

Speaking of T3, and a little off topic, what are the best debolster equips for T2/T3? I know T3 is locked at 28.

- what level is the Mayhem set? What bonuses does it offer?
-I saw Stalker, but unfortunately it seems the armor is lv. 30. Decimator also hits 29 for the head and body.

Just curious. Sounds like it may be fun to do on the side sometimes when T4 gets overly frustrating.

Edit: Is a full healing Mork Shaman any good? I really enjoy Da Green, but I'm finding it sometimes frustrating when my ITT gets blocked/ disrupted or hell, absorbed.
If ITT gets blocked/disrupted, try just targeting MDPS. AFAIK ITT/BE bypass absorbs.
I was not aware it bypassed absorb. I feel like almost absolutely, there were a few times when I used ITT on a SM and they absorbed it and it returned nothing back to me or my team. Good to know otherwise, can anyone else confirm this?

Still wondering if anyone can shed some light on Mork vs Da Green. I really like Da Green, but part of me really wants that Toughness hot in Mork. I suppose I could experiment myself.

One big problem I'm having with my Shaman is keeping people up in large scale fights. I feel like I'm under performing compared to a DoK or Zealot in a lot of ways. Is this normal? In small scale groups of 3 or 6 I'm a green number producing machine. But once we get into warband scale, I'm not able to keep up people very well.

Also, where to get rank 24 - 28 purple gear?
Da Green is vastly superior to standard Mork healing, at the moment. As far as single-target goes, having Do Sumfin' Useful and Shrug It Off is decent, but it's not even close to the strength of I'll Take That! (which is as close to a spammable flash heal as you will get), or the group heal for almost 4k of Fury of Da Green. I pointed this out in a balance proposal some time ago. Mork spec makes you one of the worst healers in the game, Da Green makes you the best (if you can hit a target).

Other than that, other ways to increase your performance compared to other healers is provide utility other than healing, the kind nobody else has access to. Sticky Feetz, Gedoff! and the two morale pump tactics with Ere We Go! are other things that make Shaman quite good to have in certain situations. Don't forget to cleanse, either.

Re: Shaman T4 advice/question

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:55 am
by OnlyHard
@Thayli can you share you rotation?

Re: Shaman T4 advice/question

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:19 am
by Daknallbomb
Well If you are heal specced and def geared noone can solo you If you dont do something Hardy wrong

Re: Shaman T4 advice/question

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:20 am
by roadkillrobin
As a healer you really don't have a rotation and it's more about adapting to how you need to heal in different scenarios. The more experience of different types of scenarios you get, the more you gonna know wich heals to use in that specific scenario. But in general healing its about making split second choises rather then using cookicutter rotations. And the hardest part about healing is doing the right descitions when you're self under preasure. The best way to learn this is by practicing it, meaning put yourself delibertly in bad situations and test different things how to get out of em.

Re: Shaman T4 advice/question

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:40 am
by warislove
i dont get how path of the Green is superior in heal than Mork?

Re: Shaman T4 advice/question

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:03 pm
by Aurandilaz
warislove wrote:i dont get how path of the Green is superior in heal than Mork?
because the server is in alpha stage, and things can get occasionally a bit weird then trying to adjust the balance

thanks to changes in Career Mechanic, a well hitting IllTakeThat will heal for 1-2k if not more, on a squishy target like clothie or pet.
You throw out 5 HoTs (EQB + DSU), then a very poweful leech heal ability.
The other leech heal in the Green tree is also very potent.

This essentially means that the dmgleechheal tree will give better and higher healing potential than the actual healing tree spec.... it's somewhat strange for now

Re: Shaman T4 advice/question

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:07 pm
by warislove
oh tyvm for the explanation
im playin my shammy with same heal build since live and doing nicely and thought i was doing it wrong all this time

Re: Shaman T4 advice/question

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:09 pm
by roadkillrobin
warislove wrote:i dont get how path of the Green is superior in heal than Mork?
When using a Mork abillity to next cast a Green abillity to next cast a Mork abillity you're more then doubeling your healoutput thanks to the new RoR mechanic with much more effetive manouvrabillity heals, then you can get with just Mork abillities.

Re: Shaman T4 advice/question

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:18 pm
by warislove
damn! guess im not reading patch notes very carefully :(
cheers for explaining