healing renown in orvr

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tazdingo
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Re: healing renown in orvr

Post#21 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:06 am

Telen wrote:
Luth wrote: The solo DD has a way higher risk when compared to a solo healer who runs behind the zerg and just HoTs every target around (same situation in scenarios ofc). The problem is that it is far easier to get renown out of the "healing pool" than out of the "kill-pool".
I don't know how it works in detail atm, but if the solo healer just pulls 1/6 out of the pool when compared to a healer in a full group (rather than the same amount is rewarded and his renown is cut to 1/6), it should be still possible to get the same amount of healing, if there are no other healers around; it would be just slower and less unfair.
With only one healer in the top20 of renown and it being almost only dd classes many of who solo zergsurf then there is a clear disparity. Solo healers are under no less risk than rdps hiding in the zerg. On live Id always heal people out of group that needed it. Here I might aswell ignore t hem and dps. I dont as Im not a douche but there really is no reward for doing it and I miss out dbs and tons of renown for helping realmmates. Really this issue promotes bad gameplay as you have everyone chasing dbs as its the only way to get renown instead of doing whats best for their realm.
yeah i'm lvling a heal AM and pretty swiftly realized that if everyone in my wb is fine, it's more lucrative to dps than heal the solo ranged plebs

i'll still heal solo melee, but what's 1 dead BW outta 50

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Re: healing renown in orvr

Post#22 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:41 am

Healing someone in rvr, you are not grouped with, is very unrewarding as a healer. With no incentive to form groups, people will prefer rdps or play dps healer.

Why no xp/rp bonus scaled to the number of people in your group?
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Luth
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Re: healing renown in orvr

Post#23 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:48 pm

I just meant that out of group healing was way too rewarding on WAR; i can't tell if it really doesn't give any renown at the moment, as i never did it on RoR so far. Nevertheless, iirc the WAR-like contribution was not implemented, to prevent that healers don't join groups intentionally to farm much more renown than they would do in a group.

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Azarael
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Re: healing renown in orvr

Post#24 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:45 pm

I've no idea what this thread is even on about.

There is handling designed to reduce your heal contribution if you're not in a group or are alone in a group, but that only applies to scenarios. Healing renown outside of scenarios obeys standard rules - you get xp and renown from the pools of the heal target, and from nothing else.

As previously stated, this is a group game. Whataboutism with respect to DPS solo kills doesn't change that. I'm not about to make it easier for anyone to solo.

Morthar
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Re: healing renown in orvr

Post#25 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:46 pm

wargrimnir wrote:We want healers in groups and not solo leeching renown. Everyone should be in groups and not solo leeching renown. It's a group game, and they're not hard to find.
all who want leech can leech, when you not making leech heal you make aoe dmg in the zerg :D

the prob ist when i play in a 6man grp and a "random" destor is low life, i became nothing to help him. on this server is it better to start the hello kitty hands and kill the enemy from the random ,than save the random player.

i think when you heal a player more thank 50% of that lift you have to stake a claim to renown.

is it possible to give renown when a player heals a other one more than 50%? i think thats no leech heal.

sorry for the bad bad english ;) i hope you understand my post
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Re: healing renown in orvr

Post#26 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:50 pm

Out of party healing on live was a joke.
Pretty much always afk or tabbed out.

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Re: healing renown in orvr

Post#27 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:54 pm

Druin wrote:Out of party healing on live was a joke.
this is a statement but no answer
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Re: healing renown in orvr

Post#28 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:56 pm

Morthar wrote:
Druin wrote:Out of party healing on live was a joke.
this is a statement but no answer
That's correct.
Pretty much always afk or tabbed out.

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Re: healing renown in orvr

Post#29 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:01 pm

Morthar wrote:is it possible to give renown when a player heals a other one more than 50%?
To allow renown farming between friends without kill-spam in the area chat?

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Re: healing renown in orvr

Post#30 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:07 pm

As Aza has provided a clear and direct answer to the OPs question, this thread is getting locked.

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