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Re: Patchnotes 15/12/16
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:23 pm
by Specialpatrol
Another classic build, that's now also made unobtainable - unless you drop either GS tactic, Sigmar's Vision or the Heal Debuff:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=wp; ... 1:;0:0:0:0:
Because there's is no dps WP (and DoK) build without the AA Haste tactic.
Re: Patchnotes 15/12/16
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:26 pm
by Specialpatrol
Penril wrote:Specialpatrol wrote:
Whoops. Yeah, my bad. Just realized that it's now also made into a Mastery tactic - missed that part. Fair enough and I stand corrected.
But I still believe that having to spec for this mandatory tactic will severely limit the dps build options. Possibly for both classes (it's been ages since I played the DoK).
We know that. Like Aza mentioned, he is just pulling .ab ex for now, until we get client control and he can implement all the changes that are required. He identified the issues in the current implementation (only possible after testing it live).
I ask everyone to be patient, and to help us test. That's all.
I got that - but if these tactic swaps remain in .ab ex, then the argument remains the same. So I'm not really talking about the reversal to the original mode. But of the overall limitations that these tactic swaps will bring with them - .ab ex mode or not.
Re: Patchnotes 15/12/16
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:35 pm
by Penril
Specialpatrol wrote:
I got that - but if these tactic swaps remain in .ab ex, then the argument remains the same. So I'm not really talking about the reversal to the original mode. But of the overall limitations that these tactic swaps will bring with them - .ab ex mode or not.
I could be wrong, but i think this won't apply to .ab ex. And the reason we see it now is simply so melee healers (with no .ab ex for now) have free access to a AoE detaunt to make their lives easier. Yes, this might affect some DPS specs, but the melee healing role has a priority over the DPS one. Don't worry though; once .ab ex is reintroduced (and with client control), both roles (and all the spec variants) should be viable.
Re: Patchnotes 15/12/16
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:36 pm
by Glorian
Question:
All the changes to cleanse themself or group remain?
Or are also reversed?
Re: Patchnotes 15/12/16
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:38 pm
by BrockRiefenstahl
Poor DPS WP/DoKs who got the T4 Willpower Weapons and bought Epic Willpower talismanshizzle etc etc...
Hopefully this gets implemented fast. Going to Travel for a month, when I come back, I want to see it

Re: Patchnotes 15/12/16
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:41 pm
by sotora
About patcher:
When roughly we can expect patcher to be ready? Is it matter of 2 weeks or 2 months or even more?
Imho patcher is also badly needed to change all tooltips and other descriptions because amount of changes overally is increasing, so this becomes more pressing.
Re: Patchnotes 15/12/16
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:41 pm
by Penril
Glorian wrote:Question:
All the changes to cleanse themself or group remain?
Or are also reversed?
The changes to their gcleanse remain.
Re: Patchnotes 15/12/16
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:44 pm
by Nirawen
More bonuses for weapons?
Well no chance, the WP offf can go to the cupboard.
Roughly there was an interesting work making a way not used, useful return of the book and I speak not about the nerve of taunt Aoe...
And during this time the we are going to see again Dok with mass damages and heal...
It is good a step backward.
Then it is temporary, we shall thus wait for the return of the changes.
Good game all
Re: Patchnotes 15/12/16
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:57 pm
by Aurandilaz
I'm not sure I understand... will DoK be better now for healing? Should I give it a try? I like being pure healer, away from the front. (which is why prefer shaman atm)
Re: Patchnotes 15/12/16
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:01 pm
by Tiggo
Aurandilaz wrote:I'm not sure I understand... will DoK be better now for healing? Should I give it a try? I like being pure healer, away from the front. (which is why prefer shaman atm)
if you ONLY want to be a backline healer i think dok wont be you preferred class in the future.