Return of Reckoning

If you're rolling a KOTBS to solo roam you're kinda missing the point a little, the class' main mechanic is auras that are basically commands You'll steamroll most mdps you meet, but you have no ranged abilities, distance closers or burst to drop stuff that quickly. Idk, I guess a KOTBS can solo roam but I really don't know anyone who's rolled KOTBS to solo roam.

That said, if you want to play solo as a KOTBS and join pugs, scenarios and impromptu roaming groups, it's a pretty neat class because everyone will usually welcome a KOTBS. Unless you're 2h.

Penril wrote:There is an issue causing many buffs not to have a mastery tree association for the purpose of events which check mastery tree association for damage, and for tactics which affects buffs and abilities of a particular mastery tree.

There is also an oversight which causes tactics and modifiers designed to affect buffs of a particular mastery tree not to work at all on them.

I believe this will be fixed in the next patch. However, keep in mind it is not set in stone. But expect a fix soon.

I didn't understand any of that But I'm assuming it means if you get a bonus amount of strength that ups your physical damage, when you put mighty soul on the strength buff won't buff the elemental damage of your newly converted skill? Either way, sounds pretty legit. Thanks for the info

Vandoles wrote:If you're rolling a KOTBS to solo roam you're kinda missing the point a little, the class' main mechanic is auras that are basically commands You'll steamroll most mdps you meet, but you have no ranged abilities, distance closers or burst to drop stuff that quickly. Idk, I guess a KOTBS can solo roam but I really don't know anyone who's rolled KOTBS to solo roam.

That said, if you want to play solo as a KOTBS and join pugs, scenarios and impromptu roaming groups, it's a pretty neat class because everyone will usually welcome a KOTBS. Unless you're 2h.

There is just so much wrong with most of this....

Even 2h kotbs are welcomed in groups in my experience because they give 10% crit, have an aoe snare, and one of orders only wounds debuffs since 2h slayer is so rarely played (and its an aoe debuff to boot). Plus with all the parry they can stack, and the resist buff, and vigilance, they aren't terrible at guarding.

Honestly, some people will always give you **** for playing 2h tank, and yes, they are always less good at tanking than shield bearers. But they are more fun imo, and order tanks are generally more viable as 2h. Or more accepted, at least.

For solo roaming, 2h Ironbreaker is probably better, because they do a bit more burst dmg and the self heal from grumble n mutter is amazing for 1vX. But solo roam is more about picking your battles, and carrying the right potions if you like kotbs, then go for it. I have seen 2h knights like Mkatew do pretty damn well.

Vandoles wrote:
I didn't understand any of that

Example: Vicious slash. Direct damage transmuted to Elemental, DoT remained physical (because the DoT is a buff, and buffs which were affected by specline-modifying tactics would not be).

GodlessCrom wrote:Even 2h kotbs are welcomed in groups in my experience because they give 10% crit, have an aoe snare, and one of orders only wounds debuffs since 2h slayer is so rarely played (and its an aoe debuff to boot). Plus with all the parry they can stack, and the resist buff, and vigilance, they aren't terrible at guarding.

One of the great things about running x2 KOTBS as well is that you can bring/field a lot more of the classes amazing tactics and auras which gives your KOTBS's more freedom so both your tanks can have superpunt, triple snare etc

TenTonHammer wrote:

GodlessCrom wrote:Even 2h kotbs are welcomed in groups in my experience because they give 10% crit, have an aoe snare, and one of orders only wounds debuffs since 2h slayer is so rarely played (and its an aoe debuff to boot). Plus with all the parry they can stack, and the resist buff, and vigilance, they aren't terrible at guarding.

One of the great things about running x2 KOTBS as well is that you can bring/field a lot more of the classes amazing tactics and auras which gives your KOTBS's more freedom so both your tanks can have superpunt, triple snare etc

Shhhhh, don't give them ideas. We 2h Ironbreakers need a home too...

Well against mara in t2 is impossible to win 1v1, due to his self heals, how is it in t4?

Tankbeardz wrote:

Vandoles wrote:If you're rolling a KOTBS to solo roam you're kinda missing the point a little, the class' main mechanic is auras that are basically commands You'll steamroll most mdps you meet, but you have no ranged abilities, distance closers or burst to drop stuff that quickly. Idk, I guess a KOTBS can solo roam but I really don't know anyone who's rolled KOTBS to solo roam.

That said, if you want to play solo as a KOTBS and join pugs, scenarios and impromptu roaming groups, it's a pretty neat class because everyone will usually welcome a KOTBS. Unless you're 2h.

There is just so much wrong with most of this....

Like what?

I honestly haven't seen that many solo roaming KOTBS, all of them seem to go into groups, 6-mans, etc. Maybe I'm mistaken here, I haven't played THAT much destro, but it seems to me like a KOTBS solo roaming the lakes looking for pick-offs and such wouldn't have as much success as..well any actual DPS class. Or a healer. But hey, enlighten me if I'm wrong.

As for 2h KOTBS, I've seen plenty of people run it. Doesn't mean it'll be THAT easy to find a group. I mean, you can run practically any build on any class, even gimped ones, that's the beauty of War's less streamlined pvp approach, but it doesn't mean you're effectively as welcome on a 2h as you are on SnB. Again, I could be wrong, I have never tried to run 6-mans or private groups, warbands and such on my KOTBS, but I've also almost never had a 2h KOTBS in my groups, which were usually led by other people.

One of the main draws of S&B KotBS was its ridiculous 20% group crit. That value dropped to 5% with the 2h Encouraged Aim lock and the 5% nerf on Dirty Tricks.