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Re: Warbands
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:39 am
by Dresden
Theseus wrote:Ok, I leaded a WB yesterday and today. When I gave orders, I mostly was just being ignored or the people did take their sweet time to react. Dont get me wrong, I dont mean all the people here. There were some who did follow orders, but just not enough to win. So I just wanted to ask, why you even join a wb? It seems it is not to coordinate or to help each other out winning.
I did lead, even whole raids on the live servers so I know how it should be. And here it is not as it should be. So I think we should discuss that to make it better.
I leaded on order side, so i only can assume wether it is just as bad on destro or not.
P.S: Sorry if I am ranting on, but I really questioned why we even have warbands yesterday.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! THE FAULT IS ALWAYS WITH THE LEADER. ALWAYS.
Edit: Woah Dresden! too harsh!
Re: Warbands
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:43 am
by Theseus
Dabbart wrote:So... TLDR would be, leading PUGs feels almost like your in a PUG group?
GL!
Nah TLDR is: People get your arses up and do what you are told. You can question me if it doesnt work.
Re: Warbands
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:58 am
by Daknallbomb
Its standart if u lead a pug wb u can write youre ass up and if u are lucky 50% follow
Re: Warbands
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:08 am
by roadkillrobin
Tip list.
1: People who run off and do their own thing. Kick immidieatly
2: Healers in dps specs. Kick, they don't really belong in PuG warbands
3: Tanks who doesn't guard dps or stick on their Guard Warning then Kick.
4: People who go Afk, Kick.
This is basicly the same filters that Guild Warbands have except that guild warbands check for optimal group setups and synnergy specs to
Re: Warbands
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:36 pm
by Bluestreak2k5
Theseus wrote:
To the part of critizising me. Thats not really an issue. I do make mistakes, I cerainly know that. I have no problem with constructive criticism. But if I am made leader I just expect people to obey as long as they want me to lead. And yes I of cause will send people to places where is no fighting if a BO has to be defended. And I do not care about their renown and medalions, because we will get more if we take the keep as if we lose, while fighting pointless battle that evolve from unprotected BOs.
You can't walk in expecting everyone to follow you right from the beginning. Leadership is something that is earned. If your making the right calls, if your group is succeeding and not dying, then people are more willing to listen. If your constantly making bad calls and mistakes then don't expect people to listen to you.
Re: Warbands
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:10 pm
by Akalukz
Nork / Blue / Thelen / Dabart they get it. Success yields followers. If you have a group of 12 and the enemy has 2 wbs, you should be ganking the zerg, not clashing with it head on.
It would be nice if the warband assistant thing worked to help with group management, but it doesn't currently. Get a core of 6-12, the rest will follow them. If they don't... boot em.
Re: Warbands
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:31 pm
by Tholkienn
yeah wb assistant!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Warbands
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:51 pm
by Duddits
yust join radiant knights or any other guild that are playing whit premade wb
pug is pug players join them to leech not to fight and they are not the ones that really wanne enjoy the game in the full
Re: Warbands
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:00 pm
by Bluestreak2k5
Duddits wrote:yust join radiant knights or any other guild that are playing whit premade wb
pug is pug players join them to leech not to fight and they are not the ones that really wanne enjoy the game in the full
And it's people like you that give a bad rap to PUGS. I boot people like you immediately.
Re: Warbands
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:50 pm
by Theseus
Akalukz wrote:Nork / Blue / Thelen / Dabart they get it. Success yields followers. If you have a group of 12 and the enemy has 2 wbs, you should be ganking the zerg, not clashing with it head on.
It would be nice if the warband assistant thing worked to help with group management, but it doesn't currently. Get a core of 6-12, the rest will follow them. If they don't... boot em.
Look people I do get all of this, I also get that if someone new tries to be leader, people will be more sceptical of his calls. I get that. Really. But there we get into a circle, withoutt following orders there wont be success, without success no followers and without followers no success and so on and so on.
So my suggestion would be, anyone who takes the burden of leading a wb should have an advance of trust. Simply because he tries to do that unthankfull job.