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Tesq
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Re: Classes Balance Comparison Lets Discuss!

Post#21 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:14 pm

Penril wrote:1 is best and 3 is worst according to OP. I think some people are confused in their rankings :P
yes i do belive that kobs can beat other tank in damages if spec right.
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Post#22 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:19 pm

Tesq wrote:
Penril wrote:1 is best and 3 is worst according to OP. I think some people are confused in their rankings :P
yes i do belive that kobs can beat other tank in damages if spec right.
Maybe overall damage due to auras, but it is the worst tank for dps.
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Post#23 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:25 pm

Yay, I will have some fun reading this thread tomorrow.

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Post#24 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:03 am

peterthepan3 wrote:
Tesq wrote:
Penril wrote:1 is best and 3 is worst according to OP. I think some people are confused in their rankings :P
yes i do belive that kobs can beat other tank in damages if spec right.
Maybe overall damage due to auras, but it is the worst tank for dps.
You should be able to hit super hard as a kobs with the right setup; str specced and have emperor's champ and runefang up giving you 1300 str and 600 ws

try it out sometime rr40+, mine is rr37 so the damage isnt quite there but when emperor's champ is up (30s duration) i hit like a **** truck. no dmg auras and ill get 200k+ dmg and a good amt of dbs (8+).

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https://www.returnofreckoning.com/armor ... ame=Hemodr
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Post#25 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:16 am

cemen wrote: You should be able to hit super hard as a kobs with the right setup; str specced and have emperor's champ and runefang up giving you 1300 str and 600 ws

try it out sometime rr40+, mine is rr37 so the damage isnt quite there but when emperor's champ is up (30s duration) i hit like a **** truck. no dmg auras and ill get 200k+ dmg and a good amt of dbs (8+).

heres my char's gear:
https://www.returnofreckoning.com/armor ... ame=Hemodr
Try a naked level 40 SM with 500 strength, 20% crit tactic and 10% damage increase... Double spirit debuff any dude and watch them 700-800 Ether-Dance crit totalling 3k damage in 3 seconds. Then had the 2 dots, the AA and Blurring shock procs for every crit... 4k+. 3 seconds. Naked.

I mean, all tanks can do great damage versus clueless, potless, cloth armored targets. IB can manage decent enough even versus medium armor thanks to armor debuff. But SM are good against all thanks to ignoring armor and resist altogether. Heck, Blurring Shock procs even ignore toughness.

There is no way a knight can compare to a SM. Not even remotely close versus medium and heavy armored classes.
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Re: Classes Balance Comparison Lets Discuss!

Post#26 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:57 am

Eathisword wrote:
cemen wrote: You should be able to hit super hard as a kobs with the right setup; str specced and have emperor's champ and runefang up giving you 1300 str and 600 ws

try it out sometime rr40+, mine is rr37 so the damage isnt quite there but when emperor's champ is up (30s duration) i hit like a **** truck. no dmg auras and ill get 200k+ dmg and a good amt of dbs (8+).

heres my char's gear:
https://www.returnofreckoning.com/armor ... ame=Hemodr
Try a naked level 40 SM with 500 strength, 20% crit tactic and 10% damage increase... Double spirit debuff any dude and watch them 700-800 Ether-Dance crit totalling 3k damage in 3 seconds. Then had the 2 dots, the AA and Blurring shock procs for every crit... 4k+. 3 seconds. Naked.

I mean, all tanks can do great damage versus clueless, potless, cloth armored targets. IB can manage decent enough even versus medium armor thanks to armor debuff. But SM are good against all thanks to ignoring armor and resist altogether. Heck, Blurring Shock procs even ignore toughness.

There is no way a knight can compare to a SM. Not even remotely close versus medium and heavy armored classes.
Blurring Shock damage procs ignore toughness? I suspected as much since it does exactly the amount of damage the tooltip describes (when target is double spirit debuffed). Good info, thanks!

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Post#27 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:06 am

It's a shame they never made the SM a true dps class. The balance mechanic would make so much more sense that way, and would be far more interesting to play.
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Post#28 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:50 am

altharion1 wrote:It's a shame they never made the SM a true dps class. The balance mechanic would make so much more sense that way, and would be far more interesting to play.
Yeah lets make WL the tank that it should be :D

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Post#29 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:50 am

noisestorm wrote:
altharion1 wrote:It's a shame they never made the SM a true dps class. The balance mechanic would make so much more sense that way, and would be far more interesting to play.
Yeah lets make WL the tank that it should be :D
Can we be tanks and keep the burst plz? :roll:
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Tesq
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Post#30 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:00 pm

kobs in live at rr 100 was able to bypass a total of 70% of your armor, having cap strength.
Never hitted so hard by other tanks like kobs in live.
I have a bg then, if it have then the anti detaunt tactic and the same armor ingore for st of kobs that's plenty useles vs guard... and lack of other buff tool like kobs have.
BG on the offensive side it's only good at spam aoe due to hate gain. BG it's horrible generaly in lot of regard don't really know what that second dev team tough when they designed it.
Bo is on 2 as chosen cos with the touch of palsy tactic can do quite the damages, it's all set up dependand. SM have those tactic stack which make it in the same way 2.
Kobs would probably do the same damages as those 3 but it punish hard heavy armored classes due to broken ingore which make him on 3 for me.
strick speaking, kobs ingore in % the enenmy ain def stat, sm debuff spiritual for x value which is worse hence is in number 3 while sm is in number 2.
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