Order vs Destro

[freshour]

Warrior Priest vs DoK

Backline Healbot

DoK > WP - before the crocodile tears come out, yes WP get 20% more healing after a disrupt/dodge/etc if they are running that. But.... DoK's will either take AOE detaunt (yes its insane for a backline healer to have in his bag) or the chance to heal themselves for 25% of their heals which adds loads to your survivability. I mean the two are pretty close the only reason I really say DoK over WP for backline healer is b/c the DoK really does do everything better. Take the best healing WP vs the best healing DoK and the DoK will outheal every single day of the week. They are just built to last a little more than a WP is.

Melee

Excluding RR80-100 - the DoK > WP in every single possible way. The DoK has better prayers. The DoK has better tactics. The DoK has better abilities in all counts. You wanna compare Grace/Sac? Okay... devour essence vs shield of crapmar? nuff said. WP gets 10% parry, wooo hooooo, DoK gets minus 10% parry so it can you know... melee heal? But okay, DoK wins that by miles.... not to mention the prayers... being two of the WP's prayers, with dual weild, proc'n twice as much, giving them the 10% extra parry the WP have to use an ability for....... i digress. But what about Tort/Wrath? Ohhhhh you mean the DoK has the best heal debuff in the entire game? It procs off any crit? single target/aoe moves all proc it? wow.... at least the WP has a 25% 20 second cooldown "worst heal debuff" in the game.

- I started off on WP, I wil get her to 40 when T4 hits then shelf her because the DoK is better in every single way. Even with the WP getting free detaunt haha. But I know it is sorta how it goes and how it has always been. My lovely lady Dawm will be ready in case the class ever gets a chance. To anyone arguing anything... I'm sorry, but you are massively mistaken. The only advantage I have is my WP ends up with a bit more disrupt than my DoK but with aoe detaunt in T4... My DoK will have 80+ parry, and will detaunt casters in thee backline and have devour essence and aoe heal debuff tactic sooooo yeah. not really sure why anyone ever thought these were mirrors but it's fun to play the better one after playing WP for so long.

[peterthepan3]

Imagine WP with devour essence and a 50% heal debuff...drool.

[freshour]

Hahahahaha they would be...... idk what the word is.... but good??? I mean they will never be as good since they proc their prayers twice as slow, not to mention if you add the 50% increased AA...but those two things would actually make it not the most imbalanced mirror in the game for 2/3 trees hehe. (don't quote me on that)

[Toldavf]

I always think copying is the worst way to balance it just removes so much flavour.

[peterthepan3]

I agree, but the DPS WP is pretty much the Ready Salted flavour compared to DOK's Cheese and Onion...

[kok]

SOLO VIABILITY (1v1)

Magus > Engi (magic damage, higher toughness, more reliable aoe pump, heal is larger and instant which is good in fast fights)

Higher Toughness? What higher toughness? You mean the useless tactic no one use?
More Reliable AOE? Seem the same to me. Eng do have M2 so Eng has better
Magi has heal? Oh wait , you mean the wound buff? Meanwhile Eng has real heal.

[footpatrol2]

Engie checks against dodge mainly which is easier to land stuff.

Magus checks against disrupt which isn't as easy to land stuff.

People do use that toughness tactic. You can build your magus to have high toughness with change/deamonology spec you don't lose your utility and your damage is ok ish. You can still get near top damage and near top DB's as a tough magus if you know how to set up your burst. By making your magus fairly tough your freeing up a dedicated guard and can get by on a floated guard. Doh didn't see it being solo viability I was talking about group stuffs, sorry.

[lilsabin]

from what i understood , the classes werent made to be an exemple mirrors of each other ,it s more of a RvR mirroring thing , it is like saying it is not the classes that are mirrored , but more the GROUPS / WB that are mirrored , that s why it s called a group game i suppose

[footpatrol2]

There are mechanic mirror's and there are role mirror's.

Its a nuance point so it gets overlooked. Players generally focus on the mechanic mirror's.

[Arbich]

Warrior Priest vs DoK

Backline Healbot

DoK > WP - before the crocodile tears come out, yes WP get 20% more healing after a disrupt/dodge/etc if they are running that. But.... DoK's will either take AOE detaunt (yes its insane for a backline healer to have in his bag) or the chance to heal themselves for 25% of their heals which adds loads to your survivability. I mean the two are pretty close the only reason I really say DoK over WP for backline healer is b/c the DoK really does do everything better. Take the best healing WP vs the best healing DoK and the DoK will outheal every single day of the week. They are just built to last a little more than a WP is.

Hm... I disagree. backline WP > backline DoK.
WP can also have the AOE detaunt. Higher parry is nice, but not that important to a backline healer compared to 20% more healing (virtually) all the time.
DoK is better melee, WP is better backline healer. Both are too strong and deserve a nerf.