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Re: Pounce
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:36 am
by footpatrol2
Fear?
Its true people fear me when I enter a SC which makes them shake and not use their abilities as well because their hands are shaking.
Re: Pounce
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:37 am
by Ghostweed
Gachimuchi wrote:Ghostweed wrote:Staggers are range AOE (Magus and Eng got 5sec one), KD is point blank ST (except mara). It is easier to stagger than KD someone.
Do you even think about what you're posting before you do? Where did you get the idea there is anything different about appling a stagger than applying a KD?
U can dodge, block, parry and distrub the KD. U can only distrub or block the stagger. Also rangewise stagger is 40ft AOE (usualy) but KD is PB/Range ST. If u cant see the difference...
Ghostweed wrote:
Also any skill that makes a person not to be able to do anything is fundamentaly bad and should not be in pvp game.
In PvE games loss of control is bad. This is a PvP-centric game and CC is needed because:
1. Ranged classes exist
2. Movement based abilities exist
U should work on your written text comprehesion as I never mentioned CC. Yes, KD, stagger and stun are parts on CC skill group but not the only ones. Rest of the skills like disarm, slow, punt, silence, hold etc. are ok as the player have chance for counter play.
Additionally, what he said is definitely NOT a personal attack. Your ineptitude is really starting to show friend. I suggest not posting again until you actually have an idea of what you're talking about.
Pointing the finger and saying that u are stupid aint no personal attack for sure lol.
Re: Pounce
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:43 am
by Ghostweed
peterthepan3 wrote:Ghostweed wrote:If u think that CC is only KD and Stagger/Stun then you should go and educate yourself. Also ask Aza about his opinion on this - u will find out that its fundementaly the same as mine. Till then STFU with your beloved personal attacks.
When did I say that? I said 'crowd control' as a whole.
You said:
Also any skill that makes a person not to be able to do anything is fundamentaly bad and should not be in pvp game.
This includes things such as staggers, kds, fear, silences, disarms; things that are vital in the ranged vs melee/archetype balancing imo.
And I never spoke about CC in the first place. U started this CC nonsense. L2read.
U can do stuff when u are silenced, disarmed, punted, slowed, holded, debuffed etc. U cannot do anything while staggered, stuned or knockdowned.
Re: Pounce
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:54 am
by Gachimuchi
Ghostweed wrote:
U can dodge, block, parry and distrub the KD. U can onl distrub or block the stagger. Also rangewise stagger is 40ft AOE (usualy) but KD is PB ST. If u cant see the difference then u should play more
Excuse me? Slayer/Choppa KD can't be defended against. Quake/Heaven's Fury can be parried. Every type of KD save slayer/choppa/morale can have 2 defense checks against them. Just like all stagger has 2 defense checks against them.
Ghostweed wrote:
U should work on your written text comprehesion as I never mentioned CC. Yes, Kd, stagger and stun are parts on CC skill group but not the only ones. Rest of the skills like disarm, slow, punt, silence etc. are ok as the player have chance for counter play.
It should have been obvious I was talking about stagger/KD. Anyway, you're kind of thick so i'll put you on ignore and be done with this.
Re: Pounce
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:08 am
by Ghostweed
Hahaha, this guy really thinks that 40ft cone/30ft aoe = PB/Range ST. Made my day.
Bye
Re: Pounce
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:27 am
by Shadowgurke
Ghostweed wrote:Hahaha, this guy really thinks that 40ft cone/30ft aoe = PB/Range ST. Made my day.
Bye
Aoe KD 1
AoE KD 2
and Aoe KD 3
Git gud :>
Re: Pounce
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:46 am
by Bretin
Genisaurus wrote:
Bug Fixes:
- Fixed a bug that allowed White Lions to pounce in midair.
Pounce is love, Pounce is life
Re: Pounce
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:22 am
by iraoul
OH MY GOD !
WHEN ?
We need this fix more than t4.
Pounce Pounce Pounce bump p.. p... QQQQq Ahahah Land Pounce Pounce pounce
Re: Pounce
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:22 pm
by Ghostweed
Shadowgurke wrote:Ghostweed wrote:Hahaha, this guy really thinks that 40ft cone/30ft aoe = PB/Range ST. Made my day.
Bye
Aoe KD 1
AoE KD 2
and Aoe KD 3
Git gud :>
Did u read page 2 of this this thread? Obviously not.
Git gud
Ghostweed wrote:Staggers are range AOE (Magus and Eng got 5sec one), KD is point blank ST(except mara). It is easier to stagger than KD someone.
Good luck having moral 4 faster than CH/KOTB press the button
Re: Pounce
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:58 pm
by peterthepan3
Ghostweed wrote:peterthepan3 wrote:Ghostweed wrote:If u think that CC is only KD and Stagger/Stun then you should go and educate yourself. Also ask Aza about his opinion on this - u will find out that its fundementaly the same as mine. Till then STFU with your beloved personal attacks.
When did I say that? I said 'crowd control' as a whole.
You said:
Also any skill that makes a person not to be able to do anything is fundamentaly bad and should not be in pvp game.
This includes things such as staggers, kds, fear, silences, disarms; things that are vital in the ranged vs melee/archetype balancing imo.
And I never spoke about CC in the first place. U started this CC nonsense. L2read.
U can do stuff when u are silenced, disarmed, punted, slowed, holded, debuffed etc. U cannot do anything while staggered, stuned or knockdowned.
Incoherent rambling.
"Also any skill that makes a person not to be able to do anything is fundamentaly bad and should not be in pvp game."
When you are disarmed, staggered, knocked down, silenced you are basically rendered useless for a few seconds: THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF USING THEM, TO RENDER AN ENEMY USELESS.
DO YUE EVEN WARONLINE,BRA
