Return of Reckoning

dosnt matter, in 6v6 SnB chosen is far better than 2h chosen in terms of usefulness + utlity and x2 chosens are not viable


and choppas n maras can deal far superior damage and have far better utility

im not so sure they plan to release tier 4 and lvl cap up to 40.

Likely they will increase just enough to incorporate the next armor set.

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=cho ... :4791:4809:

If your enemies are baddies and you dont need it (or you got way too little crit), you can always switch out Crippling Strikes for the Superpunt. Healdebuff Aura is pretty much wasted, since its incoming which is always up on your focus targets in the first place. Also a 3 sec stagger most of the time isnt worth it, because you got like 4-5 knockdowns in your team as well and dont want them to be immune. Assuming your Team runs with a zealot, you can always 9sec stagger important targets on their own with him and dont need the puny 3 sec one from the chosen.

TenTonHammer wrote:dosnt matter, in 6v6 SnB chosen is far better than 2h chosen in terms of usefulness + utlity and x2 chosens are not viable


and choppas n maras can deal far superior damage and have far better utility

Dunno what about now, but back then at live no1 ever played SnB chosen in 6v6. Thats all i can say.

StormX2 wrote:im not so sure they plan to release tier 4 and lvl cap up to 40.

Likely they will increase just enough to incorporate the next armor set.

T4 will be released with lvl40 together.. There will be no more in-between raise

TenTonHammer wrote:

Keyser wrote: 1. As a chosen you only need two auras with str-, tough- or res. The other auras besides healdebuff are way too

str tough and resists are mandatory they not only buff you but also buff your groupmates as well and is needed to cancel out KOTBS auras

First of all you will cancel out the kotbs-auras because just like the chosen in my spec, most kotbs will run tough + res. Moreover, I dont like that argument at all because there are some better debuffs/buffs besides the one from kotbs.

But instead of looking at order, lets take a look at some possible setups with chosen:
1. 2x Chosen: One chosen will definitely spec healdebuff.

2. Chosen + BO
You can rid of the Str-Aura in my spec because of Da Biggest.

3. Chosen + BG
BG has a toughness debuff but can only buff one target toughness.
a) one of your healers is a shaman: ---> your grp has a non-grp-cleansable str-debuff --> you can get rid of str-aura.
b) no shaman-healer but at least 1 zealot: --> no str-debuff
c) 2xdok: no str-debuff and if the melee take ws-potion, you dont have a str-buff except the one from BG.

In conclusion we see that only in the setups 3b) and 3c), we could need all three auras. But even then I wouldnt take them for sure since str/toughness becomes less important, when WS takes over.

Well idk about your build noisestorm why do u pick a m4 when the base m4 is just alot better? The spec i ran in live with a 6man did the job ( never died from guard dmg/put out good dmg (for a def tank)/ debuffs and cc.

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=cho ... :4791:4792:

I was running ( at end game ) 2 bits def warpforge and 2 bits off warpforge with the def rr100 2hd wep,
all in all i had about 600-700 str and maxed out toughness with about 45%-50% parry and 40%ish crit. Worrked out fine could tank for days and could !Help! my dps with killing.

Dont bother discussing anything that happened after the EA Level Cap Increase


heal Debuff is still good to have if you are the guaranteed SnB tank of the party. There are occasions where that 50% heal debuff is expertly cleansed often enough to warrant its use. though many times you will not require it.

noisestorm wrote:

StormX2 wrote:im not so sure they plan to release tier 4 and lvl cap up to 40.

Likely they will increase just enough to incorporate the next armor set.

T4 will be released with lvl40 together.. There will be no more in-between raise

ooo for real for real?

that's really good to hear. I mean I thought they said otherwise on the dev diary, but im certainly not complaining ;p

StormX2 wrote:
that's really good to hear. I mean I thought they said otherwise on the dev diary, but im certainly not complaining ;p

They talked about renown rank potentially not being increased for the time being

TenTonHammer wrote:dosnt matter, in 6v6 SnB chosen is far better than 2h chosen in terms of usefulness + utlity and x2 chosens are not viable

In my honest opinion there is no better tank setup for melee trains in T4 than 2xchosen because of destined for victory. Its even gettin better in a setup like shaman+dok+2xchosen, in which you can use m4 so often, that your grp becomes almost invincible.