Return of Reckoning

So neither are Drop That! and Frostbite, I don't get the point.

TenTonHammer wrote:SW rkd

BW rkd

i wouldt say that they are very hugh in the trees

Can't really get up any higher for an ability in the mastery trees.

Disarm is not the same as hard cc

Disarms don't allow your team to catch up on an enemy target and prevent kiting

I didn't bring up this disscussion of cc the order biased players in this fourms did


@magic my mistake I throughout it was 9 pts

Last night some guy was raging like a madman on order.

"oh nice, this will be 0-500 again, we never ever have tanks, why order u no have melee trains??!!!!!! THIS IS RIDICULOUSSSS GO LOG ON YOUR MELEE CLASSES!!!".

He was a BW. I thought it was beautiful.

Penril wrote:Last night some guy was raging like a madman on order.

"oh nice, this will be 0-500 again, we never ever have tanks, why order u no have melee trains??!!!!!! THIS IS RIDICULOUSSSS GO LOG ON YOUR MELEE CLASSES!!!".

He was a BW. I thought it was beautiful.

I think I saw the guy on Nordenwatch! Order had like 5 BW, 4 SW, 1 SM and 1 AM both being dps.

Scrilian wrote:

Penril wrote:Last night some guy was raging like a madman on order.

"oh nice, this will be 0-500 again, we never ever have tanks, why order u no have melee trains??!!!!!! THIS IS RIDICULOUSSSS GO LOG ON YOUR MELEE CLASSES!!!".

He was a BW. I thought it was beautiful.

I think I saw the guy on Nordenwatch! Order had like 5 BW, 4 SW, 1 SM and 1 AM both being dps.

Yes it was NW, i was on my WP (heal spec). After first miserable wipe i just PvE'd flags with some slayer (we won lol).

Penril wrote:Last night some guy was raging like a madman on order.

"oh nice, this will be 0-500 again, we never ever have tanks, why order u no have melee trains??!!!!!! THIS IS RIDICULOUSSSS GO LOG ON YOUR MELEE CLASSES!!!".

He was a BW. I thought it was beautiful.

While funny, does have some merit. I am so tired of getting an scenario going, only to have more than half the groups being rDPS, while Destro is just flooded with melee spam.

In my SC experience, Destro pugs tend to be better than Order pugs. Order pugs can be so fail sometimes I can't tell if they are botting or not (sarcasm). But Order SC premades tend to be better than Destro because anyone can play 2 gaurded Flurry Slayers and wreck an SC.

With regard to the IB being the best tank overall, I think not. While the IB has the best single target buff, debuff and DPS synergy, a Knight is slightly superior overall. If you are doing a 6v6, Orvr or SC I would rather have a Knight than an IB. However, the IB guarding Slayer with a Knight in the group is the best tank combo in the game.

Isn't that orders own fault?

Since the early days of when we were all in t1 order was a majority healers and rdps where as destro while being a bit melee heavy has better class distribution


Ib isn't the best tank in the game simply because it outshines up all the bs on kotbs

Scrilian wrote:

Penril wrote:Last night some guy was raging like a madman on order.

"oh nice, this will be 0-500 again, we never ever have tanks, why order u no have melee trains??!!!!!! THIS IS RIDICULOUSSSS GO LOG ON YOUR MELEE CLASSES!!!".

He was a BW. I thought it was beautiful.

I think I saw the guy on Nordenwatch! Order had like 5 BW, 4 SW, 1 SM and 1 AM both being dps.

Apart from lacking healers, this could have been some impressive ranged assist.