Return of Reckoning

Tklees wrote:im not sure i understand what you're saying. I believe the classes are the perfect example of equal but different and balanced. I have said this many times. I just prefer WE kisses to WH bullets

The first part of my post was a poke at kisses.

The rest of the post wasn't directed at anyone in particular, I was just expressing that I find it weird when people (again no one in particular) compare classes like this in an asymmetrical game, and one-on-one as well when the game is intended to be balanced around groups and not individuals.

Sulorie wrote:Think about it, when do you want your debuffs? Close after starting the fight or on a finisher to kill a target.

Depends on the debuff I suppose.

Torquemadra wrote:

You also want the kiss to be dependent on an attack, a tohit roll and last 120 seconds with that?

Why would kisses have to go back to something like that? The tactic was changed because people bitched about a WH having a healing tactic, so they gave the WE one.

Kisses were nerfed due to a blanket nerf to proc damage being able to get mitigated.

Kiss of Doom going back to old would be another useful tactic, instead it is kinda meh.

Sulorie wrote:Think about it, when do you want your debuffs? Close after starting the fight or on a finisher to kill a target.

If I'm attacking a healer or assist in killing one the I prefer my outgoing hd applied as soon as possible

TenTonHammer wrote:

Sulorie wrote:Think about it, when do you want your debuffs? Close after starting the fight or on a finisher to kill a target.

If I'm attacking a healer or assist in killing one the I prefer my outgoing hd applied as soon as possible

I prefer it at about 50% hp. Most healers are not going to change their healing pattern or blow a CD until they get to about 50%. With WE I almost always have a proc up by then and this allows me to actually finish with a finisher instead of using it to apply a debuff.

I prefer to make pug healers panic when they see the debuff and start focus healing them selves, a time their healing themselves is time thier not healing their team

TenTonHammer wrote:I prefer to make pug healers panic when they see the debuff and start focus healing them selves, a time their healing themselves is time thier not healing their team

While I get where you're coming from, most pug healers don't notice debuffs.

Tklees wrote:

TenTonHammer wrote:I prefer to make pug healers panic when they see the debuff and start focus healing them selves, a time their healing themselves is time thier not healing their team

While I get where you're coming from, most pug healers don't notice debuffs.

the buff head or buffhead2 addon?

it shows debuffs on you and the targets you select

dosnt everyone run it

TenTonHammer wrote:

Tklees wrote:

TenTonHammer wrote:I prefer to make pug healers panic when they see the debuff and start focus healing them selves, a time their healing themselves is time thier not healing their team

While I get where you're coming from, most pug healers don't notice debuffs.

the buff head or buffhead2 addon?

it shows debuffs on you and the targets you select

dosnt everyone run it

If they did I think pug WP/Dok would cleanse more.

TenTonHammer wrote:

Tklees wrote:

TenTonHammer wrote:I prefer to make pug healers panic when they see the debuff and start focus healing them selves, a time their healing themselves is time thier not healing their team

While I get where you're coming from, most pug healers don't notice debuffs.

the buff head or buffhead2 addon?

it shows debuffs on you and the targets you select

dosnt everyone run it

This addon should be compulsory lol ;D

MrESkull wrote:

Tklees wrote:im not sure i understand what you're saying. I believe the classes are the perfect example of equal but different and balanced. I have said this many times. I just prefer WE kisses to WH bullets

The first part of my post was a poke at kisses.

The rest of the post wasn't directed at anyone in particular, I was just expressing that I find it weird when people (again no one in particular) compare classes like this in an asymmetrical game, and one-on-one as well when the game is intended to be balanced around groups and not individuals.

Sulorie wrote:Think about it, when do you want your debuffs? Close after starting the fight or on a finisher to kill a target.

Depends on the debuff I suppose.

the problem about group balancing is that (from what i have noticed) people tend to forget that a lot (and , we all cannot be pro-dedicated player) , unless we get an add on that remind us every 5 mins that we are a part of a chain