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Re: On a scale of 1-10...

Post#21 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:28 pm

You will experience decent over-time damage, but burst damage will be lacking. I have seen Solo Zealots do it very well by picking targets that can't heal themselves.

With regard to SCs, you will definitely and frequently get people bitching at you. Just turn off chat and don't respond to them. If you are the only healer class in a full party while an SC is loading, pay them the courtesy of leaving the party so that a spec healer might possibly enter. Buff em before you go just to tenderize their frustration. It doesn't hurt to announce in /SC that you are DPS... then brace yourself :).
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Re: On a scale of 1-10...

Post#22 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:15 pm

Do it. But f*** transference. Get the heal debuff tactic and chaotic agitation/WOI, get a guard, and go to town. If you wanna extra lulz get a choppa to reduce cooldowns so you can spam rite of agony. It would be amazing to be able to spec transference with the above, but until that happens I wouldnt take it over a heal debuff, you arent going to kill anything without that.

Its not very good outside of bombing, meaning in scs (why people still bring bomb premades to scs ill never understand), but it will be great for a wb once t4 gets here and there are huge zergs everywhere. Hell in a serious zerg fighting group id even take a sorc/zealot duo over a sorc/choppa duo.
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Re: On a scale of 1-10...

Post#23 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:52 pm

If You would be 1 alone healer in whole SC or single healer for whole party, on scale 1(loved) to 10(hated) Your position will be on probably 20!
You must be sane and if You are one and only healer, You just cant jumping around and trying wanabee DPS while Your group dying like flyes.

Thanks to mechanics You can switch between full DPS and full heal by a clic ona button.
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Re: On a scale of 1-10...

Post#24 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:57 pm

Vdova wrote:If You would be 1 alone healer in whole SC or single healer for whole party, on scale 1(loved) to 10(hated) Your position will be on probably 20!
You must be sane and if You are one and only healer, You just cant jumping around and trying wanabee DPS while Your group dying like flyes.

Thanks to mechanics You can switch between full DPS and full heal by a clic ona button.
I'm gonna say yes and no on this.

Why should 5 other people force 1 person to do something they don't want to do? If the only healer in the group wants to play their DPS spec, then tough tits. If Order has more healers, what good is the one going to do?

Those 5 people need someone to blame for their butthurt, and simply scapegoat the easiest target because they all agree they'd have won with a healer. Too bad.

If the DPS decides to stand back and heal, those 5 should be grateful. Especially when those same 5 are so willing to throw little tantrums for not getting their way, as if they've never lost a scenario before (with healers in their party, no less ("Aww, but they had <insert next scapegoat>")).

This is why, if you choose to go offspec, you need to stick to your initiative. Everyone will demand that you do otherwise, to satisfy their experience at your own expense. Don't do it.
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Re: On a scale of 1-10...

Post#25 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:04 am

Defiance wrote:
Vdova wrote:If You would be 1 alone healer in whole SC or single healer for whole party, on scale 1(loved) to 10(hated) Your position will be on probably 20!
You must be sane and if You are one and only healer, You just cant jumping around and trying wanabee DPS while Your group dying like flyes.

Thanks to mechanics You can switch between full DPS and full heal by a clic ona button.
I'm gonna say yes and no on this.

Why should 5 other people force 1 person to do something they don't want to do? If the only healer in the group wants to play their DPS spec, then tough tits. If Order has more healers, what good is the one going to do?

Those 5 people need someone to blame for their butthurt, and simply scapegoat the easiest target because they all agree they'd have won with a healer. Too bad.

If the DPS decides to stand back and heal, those 5 should be grateful. Especially when those same 5 are so willing to throw little tantrums for not getting their way, as if they've never lost a scenario before (with healers in their party, no less ("Aww, but they had <insert next scapegoat>")).
Hell, I was running DPS zealot when T2 was endgame and was fun like hell, but I was sain enough to run solo in rvr or in WB with more healers in party. In scenarios I wasnt even dare to try dps unless I had 2 healers in my party.
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Re: On a scale of 1-10...

Post#26 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:07 am

More Players should play how they want! Build the Character your going to Love! Not the One everyone else wants you to make..

Besides, seeing Players do something outside of the Class Stigma IMO is Awesome. I'd love to see the Zealot that could Slap Around the Enemy Team and not just Heal. Although Healing helps everyone :P
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Re: On a scale of 1-10...

Post#27 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:18 am

Vdova wrote:
Defiance wrote:
Vdova wrote:If You would be 1 alone healer in whole SC or single healer for whole party, on scale 1(loved) to 10(hated) Your position will be on probably 20!
You must be sane and if You are one and only healer, You just cant jumping around and trying wanabee DPS while Your group dying like flyes.

Thanks to mechanics You can switch between full DPS and full heal by a clic ona button.
I'm gonna say yes and no on this.

Why should 5 other people force 1 person to do something they don't want to do? If the only healer in the group wants to play their DPS spec, then tough tits. If Order has more healers, what good is the one going to do?

Those 5 people need someone to blame for their butthurt, and simply scapegoat the easiest target because they all agree they'd have won with a healer. Too bad.

If the DPS decides to stand back and heal, those 5 should be grateful. Especially when those same 5 are so willing to throw little tantrums for not getting their way, as if they've never lost a scenario before (with healers in their party, no less ("Aww, but they had <insert next scapegoat>")).
Hell, I was running DPS zealot when T2 was endgame and was fun like hell, but I was sain enough to run solo in rvr or in WB with more healers in party. In scenarios I wasnt even dare to try dps unless I had 2 healers in my party.
Yes, screw system, screw haters, but be prepared You will be not loved for that kind of behaviour ;)
You made the choice. You felt pressured ("the sane thing to do" (who wants to be that crazy guy?)), sure, but you made the choice. I make the choice also... but it's usually in oRvR where my focus is not dying from mass AoE spam in keep fights, as opposed to scenarios, where my focus is fun and emblems. In either event, I'm doing what I want.

What I object to isn't the choice, but the pressure. There are people on this server who **** hate Kusheline. There are also people on this server who don't mind her, and a few who might even like her. I happen to love Kusheline, as any player who prefers the offspec probably loves their character. This, and this alone, is all that matters.

Maybe with more positive press for offspecs, people will (probably not) chill the **** out, or (more likely), offspecs will feel more comfortable when doing what they want and other people will just learn to deal with it.
Kusheline:
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1: a daring or bold resistance to any opposing force.
2: open disregard; contempt.
3: a challenge to meet in combat or in a contest.
4: Disciple of Khaine.
5: 100% Sacrifice tree.

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Re: On a scale of 1-10...

Post#28 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:36 am

Defiance wrote:You made the choice. You felt pressured ("the sane thing to do" (who wants to be that crazy guy?)), sure, but you made the choice. I make the choice also... but it's usually in oRvR where my focus is not dying from mass AoE spam in keep fights, as opposed to scenarios, where my focus is fun and emblems. In either event, I'm doing what I want.

What I object to isn't the choice, but the pressure. There are people on this server who **** hate Kusheline. There are also people on this server who don't mind her, and a few who might even like her. I happen to love Kusheline, as any player who prefers the offspec probably loves their character. This, and this alone, is all that matters.

Maybe with more positive press for offspecs, people will (probably not) chill the **** out, or (more likely), offspecs will feel more comfortable when doing what they want and other people will just learn to deal with it.

If You find, party, which will accept You as a hybrid or DD in theyr party, why not? Keep it going! Spread Your fancy dots and AOEs all over the RvR lakes, but for the love of god dont join randoms without telling them You mainly DPS. The flame from those could be verry, verry hot ;)

I havent played zealot on live, but I remember trying DPS with Runepriest in T3 and it was so terrible ,fun and surprisingly effective (against certain classes) at once :D
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Re: On a scale of 1-10...

Post#29 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:57 am

The randoms will learn over time. I keep my chalice stowed so I can collect their tears for kush & footbaths.

I find when alt hopping that I really miss being able to heal myself. DPS AM sounds wonderful... but where would I collect the tears to wash her long silky hair? Hmm...
Kusheline:
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1: a daring or bold resistance to any opposing force.
2: open disregard; contempt.
3: a challenge to meet in combat or in a contest.
4: Disciple of Khaine.
5: 100% Sacrifice tree.

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Re: On a scale of 1-10...

Post#30 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:18 am

I just tell you what I ususally tell people who talks about playing dps healers,
Either solo roam or make a premade, que with atleast another healer (Tank if DoK/WP) So you don't deny your group a healer by taking up a spot. Keep away from public WB's. Other then debuff Zealots/RP spec dps healers bring nothing usefull to a wb. And even in those specs you need a dedicated tank to make it work.

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