Return of Reckoning

The butthurt in strong with this one.

Instead of making the same thread we have whining about premades multiple times a week, how about making your own premade. Oh wait, that takes effort, better blame everyone else and call everyone who disagrees with me a troll who lacks any moral fiber. One day your foul deeds on these forums will catch up with you! I swear!
/sarcasm

Gobtar wrote:

freshour wrote:
In reality, order seems a little more chill and less serious as a whole. Sure there are some hard core pvp players, but even a lot of my guild has started to leave due to a weak NA presence. So being able to play in the morning with the EU guys I'm hoping there will be some organization in the near future.

I can name more serious order guilds in NA times than I can destro. IIRC Malice and M.R.P. have been on destro more because there is more Order groups thus more of a challenge.

This. NA order has substantially more active order guilds than destro. We occasionally see Orz. But mainly its just Tempest Wolves, The Damned, now Malice, and Stylin On You/Exo

Jaycub wrote: Also incoming healdebuff is the single most important thing in the game you might want to que up with someone who has one.

Sry, but from observating the current T3 meta we know that 99 out of 100 slayers insist on that ID is indeed the single most important thing in the game.

With a SM and knight combo you don't need heal debuffs really.

Id is on everyone and shatter is up more often as well.
When I see a Sm running ED I just scratch my head, WW is litterally one of the most powerful abilities in the game.

Landaren wrote:With a SM and knight combo you don't need heal debuffs really.

Id is on everyone and shatter is up more often as well.
When I see a Sm running ED I just scratch my head, WW is litterally one of the most powerful abilities in the game in the hands of a competent and coordinated player.

Fixed for you

WW needs everyone to be in teamspeak/vent, and those people to be built around it and know how to use those builds. And it still isn't that strong I think.

WW is overrated fam :^)

So, I see a newish player coming to the forums to suggest that the game shouldnt be filled with troll comps to be met with "L2P" and "Just troll comp back"

Since considering troll comps ruin competition, why have them allowed? This is what has killed other games since a PUG group cannot even fight back. I cant tell you how many times running into a troll comp 2-3 times in a row has caused some players to just get off the game and not have desire to come back unless we have a big group.

Would they lose anyways to a premade? Well yeah... thats the nature of the game. But it would be much more enjoyable (it seems to me) if there were some "limit" as to the number of classes allowed on each side.

Just seems logical that if you want the game to succeed you want it to be competitive and dont just want to steam roll the other side and have them sit in spawn while you tick points...

Tklees wrote:
This. NA order has substantially more active order guilds than destro. We occasionally see Orz. But mainly its just Tempest Wolves, The Damned, now Malice, and Stylin On You/Exo

This is probably why we are going to stay destro when T4 drops.

Slayer and Knight ...much easy, so effort, wow.
Shattered Limbs + AoE Snares are honestly the greatest thing going for Order atm.

Why do people think the incoming healdebuff is not important?

When calculating the sustained damage done to an enemy against the "healwall" cast on it, the 50% incoming healdebuff is indirectly likely the best damage buff in the game for every player hitting the debuffed target.

ID is good probably better than the heal debuff on slayer ATM, the thing is you are allowed to bring more than 1 DPS :^)

>EW WH
>ST Slayer

3-2-1 setups lets you bring 2 RDPS

>DPS AM
>SW
>BW (just kidding their HD sucks balls :^) )


Destro is a lot more flush for healdebuffs, all their MDPS specs have HD in good trees... inb4 pull choppa is best :^) also SH HD cannot be cleansed by WP. Mara has best HD in the game whereas WL has none.