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Re: Where they gone? And really?!

Post#21 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:04 pm

samsauce wrote:Well everywhere I go in oRvR I get gang-banged by nubs sometimes get the odd solo fight but rarely cause order don't solo at all it seem's, it's pretty disappointing not even WH solo here, the whole strafe/lag abuse too that **** is so so boring already, I am easily minus 100 kills because I cant get to people because of this abuse and the fact that abusing it forces my only snare to be obsolete.

Really needs fixing, with footage of people abusing this it results in a ban or not? I literally have footage of at least 100 players abusing this strafe/lag jump away crap...
I often solo in Highpass on my bw but I have grown tired of multiple SH's sticking there pet on me while mounted.
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Re: Where they gone? And really?!

Post#22 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:17 pm

Torquemadra wrote:
Scrilian wrote:
Torquemadra wrote:The biggest problem is the radar bug, until that gets fixed soloing is not that attractive a proposition because hiding in plain sight is impossible.
I thought this was a feature here :o
Great to know this might get fixed one day.
It is most certainly NOT a feature....
Well some games (mostly FPS, but sill) let you see enemies on the radar that have been spotted by your allies.
I also thought that was the case here.

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Re: Where they gone? And really?!

Post#23 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:23 pm

Nekkma wrote:Strafing to avoid beeing hit in the back is not an abuse of anything. It is simply the way the game was designed. Whether this is a good design is another question.
People like yourself who believe this isn't abuse are the reason it doesn't get fixed/changed, I play a Witch Elf pure melee dpser without my snare from throw weapon working the class is quite literally unplayable for me(I like to stab things in their backs) whether others see it that way is their own opinions, but to me this situation sucks.

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Post#24 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:25 pm

bwdaWAR wrote:There are some people lobbying for Feinted Positioning to affect the snare component of Throwing Dagger/Snap Shot. That said, strafing run is in no way an "exploit" or "abuse", it's always been a vital part of kiting since it affects not just from-behind abilities but keeping the chaser in the cone of fire as well.
So from this statement you fully acknowledge that all ranged dps/healers(that are dps) have a HUGE advantage over anything melee? Correct?

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Re: Where they gone? And really?!

Post#25 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:27 pm

Jaycub wrote:ORvR right now seems to be heavily deathball/blob/zerg? based with the occasional straggler here and there, ganking on a melee class is extremely inefficient, it can be done but you better really love doing it... most of the time is going to be spent getting ran over by the steamroller. There just isn't much going on in the lakes atm except zergs, not many small groups or solo players out there... could just be due to the fact most people that would be doing smallscale stuff are already RR40 or just want to do scenarios etc... Especially now that you can get everything you need via scenarios.

I actually seen a WE doing something really funny, he would just allah ackbar into the backlines at a keep take get a kill then immediately die but because you respawn in the keep with outer up he was back to get another kill every 30 seconds. Probably awesome RR with AAO up.

The whole "honor" thing is absurd, solo players thinking they are entitled to some kind of higher appreciation than any other random zerg pug is hilarious. Especially if they are on classes like DPS AM/Shaman.
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l2p l2zerg? Yeah right dude.

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Re: Where they gone? And really?!

Post#26 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:32 pm

samsauce wrote:
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bwdaWAR wrote:There are some people lobbying for Feinted Positioning to affect the snare component of Throwing Dagger/Snap Shot. That said, strafing run is in no way an "exploit" or "abuse", it's always been a vital part of kiting since it affects not just from-behind abilities but keeping the chaser in the cone of fire as well.
So from this statement you fully acknowledge that all ranged dps/healers(that are dps) have a HUGE advantage over anything melee? Correct?
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Re: Where they gone? And really?!

Post#27 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:39 pm

samsauce wrote: L
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l2p l2zerg? Yeah right dude.
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Re: Where they gone? And really?!

Post#28 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:40 pm

samsauce wrote:
Nekkma wrote:Strafing to avoid beeing hit in the back is not an abuse of anything. It is simply the way the game was designed. Whether this is a good design is another question.
People like yourself who believe this isn't abuse are the reason it doesn't get fixed/changed, I play a Witch Elf pure melee dpser without my snare from throw weapon working the class is quite literally unplayable for me(I like to stab things in their backs) whether others see it that way is their own opinions, but to me this situation sucks.
Not really sure what you are on about, but strafing has always been a bar of third person MMOs. How exactly is it an exploit?
I guess it sucks that some abilities aren't working as they are supposed to, but that's no reason to spout silly nonsense like that.

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Re: Where they gone? And really?!

Post#29 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:50 pm

samsauce wrote:
Nekkma wrote:Strafing to avoid beeing hit in the back is not an abuse of anything. It is simply the way the game was designed. Whether this is a good design is another question.
People like yourself who believe this isn't abuse are the reason it doesn't get fixed/changed, I play a Witch Elf pure melee dpser without my snare from throw weapon working the class is quite literally unplayable for me(I like to stab things in their backs) whether others see it that way is their own opinions, but to me this situation sucks.
Strafing is not exploiting. I can't believe people want a guaranteed kill every time they pop out of stealth. That's the problem with stealth classes for any mmo. Lag jumping: the pursuer can jump as well. Everyone can bend the rules of The Matrix.
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Re: Where they gone? And really?!

Post#30 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:11 pm

Mindmaker wrote:
samsauce wrote:
Nekkma wrote:Strafing to avoid beeing hit in the back is not an abuse of anything. It is simply the way the game was designed. Whether this is a good design is another question.
People like yourself who believe this isn't abuse are the reason it doesn't get fixed/changed, I play a Witch Elf pure melee dpser without my snare from throw weapon working the class is quite literally unplayable for me(I like to stab things in their backs) whether others see it that way is their own opinions, but to me this situation sucks.
Not really sure what you are on about, but strafing has always been a bar of third person MMOs. How exactly is it an exploit?
I guess it sucks that some abilities aren't working as they are supposed to, but that's no reason to spout silly nonsense like that.
Straffing is ok I don't care about only strafe, but when people are straffing/jumping and lagging further and further away from your attacks... I know we are in alpha here and yes some abilities don't function correctly etc but people are using this strafe/jump/lag as an extra escape, its pitiful really and in my opinion it should be ban-able.

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