[PVP]Scenario balance suggestion

[Scrilian]

Did it on countless occasions, should've read my posts a least once, shitpost king

[Azarael]

I'm not gonna search your post history looking for it. If you can't be arsed to link or summarize, then don't post here, thanks.

[Annaise16]

Premade versus pug is a much greater imbalance than archetype mismatch.

If you are looking for an archetype based queueing system, all you really need to do is ensure that there are at least two healers per side in 12v12 scens. Looking for a 2/2/2 balance in pug scens is kind of pointless because most pug tanks don't use Guard or other damage mit or cc abilities effectively, so you might as well have extra dps if that is who are queued.

And while having 2 healers per group would be nice, it isn't really necessary for pug v pug scens and it isn't going to make any difference in pug v premade. I've solo healed scens on my AM with Order having fewer than 5 deaths per scen and seen many other decent healers do the same. If you can get at least one good healer per side on a pug v pug scen, you will have a good scen. Any extra healers are a bonus.

[Scrilian]

I'm not gonna search your post history looking for it. If you can't be arsed to link or summarize, then don't post here, thanks.

Well I can't be arsed to repost it in the every week "suggestion" thread with unknown "balance" lovers complain about their poor feelings being hurt because of SC "imbalance".
Long story short - SCs are supposed to be imbalanced, more to come in the next weeks thread.

[TenTonHammer]

Long story short - SCs are supposed to be imbalanced, more to come in the next weeks thread.

That...hardly makes any sense

cite to me explicitly where it says sc's are intentionally ment to be unbalanced just because something can or could be dosnt mean it should be

I want AZ to implement the que system it would simultaneously address both the lack of healers in sc and 3-4 healer in an sc making it so that no one ever dies issue too

even if it means longer que times even during NA im all for it

[Scrilian]

cite to me explicitly where it says sc's are intentionally ment to be unbalanced just because something can or could be dosnt mean it should be

Well cite to me where they should balanced then and how, because the original game had non of that and no reason to have it here either, besides the buttmad puggies weekly threads.
Damn me for removing my big post from the signature about SCs.

[Azarael]

...I frankly don't give a damn what the original game did or didn't do.

Unless you have a good argument for why SCs should not be balanced, then please don't waste my time.

[Asherdoom]

i just posted the idea NOT for making this game become a MOBA like LOL but to avoid scenario total unbalances.

[Tklees]

cite to me explicitly where it says sc's are intentionally ment to be unbalanced just because something can or could be dosnt mean it should be

Well cite to me where they should balanced then and how, because the original game had non of that and no reason to have it here either, besides the buttmad puggies weekly threads.
Damn me for removing my big post from the signature about SCs.

Why? Because it's better for the community as a whole. Premades want better fights? Balanced pug groups should give them. Pugs want to not get farmed? Being in balanced groups helps. People complain about lack of heals/tanks? This fixes that issue. There isn't a single argument that can be made for keeping Scs imbalanced aside from "it wasn't like that on live!!". News flash chief, this isn't live. Stuff that was broken is being fixed, Issues addressed, the community being given a say. If you don't like that I'm sure there is a vanilla wow server out there for you somewhere.

[Scrilian]

And what's a good argument why they should be balanced? It's simply not possible with amount of skill/class/debuff/composition discrepancy and other multiple factors.
Pandering to the balance entitled soloQ elite players and their constant whining about not getting heals or guard is the first step to screwing the game, next would be mirroring classes I'm sure of it.
Not every one is all for 6man 2-2-2 meta and most dont even care about that. Where, for example, my kotbs tank, 2 dot bw, manet heal engie, napalm engie and heal am, that I ran for the last two weeks fit?
If its fairness you want, I repeat myself, it is fair for me, doesn't matter solo or grouped, to meet any kind of setup the enemy realm has to put up in a sc and try our hardest to win against it. No real reason to make a safe space for ppl that feel entitled to have a game that balances things for them and quite frankly they would still find a way to blame something for their loss.
*added my prev post to the signature, might make a bit clearer to understand my point of view