Return of Reckoning

Gobtar wrote:Dwarfs do not ride Boars or Rams in the Warhammer Fluff.

You are wrong. Original true Warhammer fluff had Dwarfs on boars.
Of course, some people prefer later/latest versions of WHFB game. And the pinnacle of everything: Age of Sigmar.

True Dwarfs of Old times:

To quote modern sources, year 2005, Warhammer Fantasy Role-Play system (c) Games Workshop.

Warhammer Fantasy Role-Play, Old World Armoury, page 82:
Ponies: "The mountain ponies of the World's Edge Mountains are an expensive alternative. Sturdy and strong, they make for excellent pack animals. Also, they are serviceable mounts for Dwarfs and Halflings".

OldPlayer wrote:

Gobtar wrote:Dwarfs do not ride Boars or Rams in the Warhammer Fluff.

You are wrong. Original true Warhammer fluff had Dwarfs on boars.
Of course, some people prefer later/latest versions of WHFB game. And the pinnacle of everything: Age of Sigmar.

"Original true Warhammer fluff" also had Chaos Warriors with bolt pistols (yes, in Fantasy!). Guess what else we're not doing? Also, implying that anyone likes Age of Sigmar is a pretty vile strawman attack.

If you want ponies, you can have ponies. Maybe, when we get around to it. But army books (only thing considered canon by GW) as far back as 4th edition don't have the Dwarfs riding anything but the Throne of Power, Anvil of Doom, palanquins, and Gyrocopters. The latter two aren't available in the game as mounts AFAIK.

Genisaurus wrote: "Original true Warhammer fluff" also had Chaos Warriors with bolt pistols (yes, in Fantasy!). Guess what else we're not doing? Also, implying that anyone likes Age of Sigmar is a pretty vile strawman attack.

Chaos Warriors with bolt pistols were ok considering very old lore taking the approach of:
1) There was Earth.
2) Emperor was created.
3) Warhammer 40.000 history was made by an Emperor.
4) Chaos was winning.
5) Slann chose/made an isolated world that would be Warhammer Fantasy Battles.

1988 Realms of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness
1990 Realms of Chaos: the Lost and the Damned

Genisaurus wrote:If you want ponies, you can have ponies. Maybe, when we get around to it. But army books (only thing considered canon by GW) as far back as 4th edition don't have the Dwarfs riding anything but the Throne of Power, Anvil of Doom, palanquins, and Gyrocopters. The latter two aren't available in the game as mounts AFAIK.

You heard it here first, we're getting Throne of Power and Anvil of Doom mounts for dwarfs!

The Warhammer aesthetic has changed drastically over the years, having the entire world reworked in the Older editions of the game. The Boars that were seen in the 1st edition of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay were eliminated as a mount for Dwarfs, many things in the Warhammer Fantasy RP games showed up that weren't supported by the final versions of Warhammer Fantasy. (Sea elves, and Non-descript elves are pefect examples.)

While Black Industries was fairly good at tying together the warhammer fantasy world in the form of 2nd edition (much better than FFGs disgracful 3rd), they developed the game for run of the mill adventurers, not heroes and soldiers.

The characters that are played in RoR are regimented soldiers of their race's respective army, not some eccentric adventurer. There is a reason why you don't see any dwarf armies use cavalry, they don't trust em, regardless of the inherent benefits (This is the dwarf mentality). This isn't the Warhammer of the 80s or even the 90s (OldHammer), this isn't Age of Sigmar (though Age of Sigmar does not invalidate what happened during age of the Old World i.e RoR's timeframe).

Playing the game for any amount of time will reveal that, posting pictures of 3rd party production material from the 80s does not counter my arguments about modern Old World Dwarfs.

Show me an entry from a 6th edition- 8th edition Dwarf Army book that allows any form of mount option (aside from those mentioned by Genisaurus) and I will drop my stance.

OldPlayer wrote:

Genisaurus wrote: "Original true Warhammer fluff" also had Chaos Warriors with bolt pistols (yes, in Fantasy!). Guess what else we're not doing? Also, implying that anyone likes Age of Sigmar is a pretty vile strawman attack.

Chaos Warriors with bolt pistols were ok considering very old lore taking the approach of:
1) There was Earth.
2) Emperor was created.
3) Warhammer 40.000 history was made by an Emperor.
4) Chaos was winning.
5) Slann chose/made an isolated world that would be Warhammer Fantasy Battles.

1988 Realms of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness
1990 Realms of Chaos: the Lost and the Damned

Yes, I'm aware of all that - I have scans of both books. So is this supposed to be a rebuttal of what I said? The book you posted is from 1992, the same era. Except that Realms of Chaos was a companion to the 3rd edition Chaos army book and was published by Games Workshop. Your reference is a 3rd party book not published by GW, though written by one of the writers for WHFRP 1st ed. While both of our sources have been retconned to oblivion, mine was closer to canon the day it was published.

Beyond that, your order is a bit off. Should go 1-2-4-5-3. The Old Ones were all dead long before the Great Crusade started.

Fite me.

Gobtar wrote: Show me an entry from a 6th edition- 8th edition Dwarf Army book that allows any form of mount option (aside from those mentioned by Genisaurus) and I will drop my stance.

Why 6-8? Why not 5-8? Why not 7-8?

I'm afraid our opinion is still pretty irrelevant.

I just seek an alternative to the worst creation every imagined - roflcopter.

Genisaurus wrote: Yes, I'm aware of all that - I have scans of both books. So is this supposed to be a rebuttal of what I said? The book you posted is from 1992, the same era. Except that Realms of Chaos was a companion to the 3rd edition Chaos army book and was published by Games Workshop. Your reference is a 3rd party book not published by GW, though written by one of the writers for WHFRP 1st ed. While both of our sources have been retconned to oblivion, mine was closer to canon the day it was published.

Beyond that, your order is a bit off. Should go 1-2-4-5-3. The Old Ones were all dead long before the Great Crusade started.

Fite me.

My order could be wrong, I have read the books too long ago.
What about poor ponies?

OldPlayer wrote:
Why 6-8? Why not 5-8? Why not 7-8?

It wouldn't matter of it was 5-8th. the result would be the same. As for they reason behind it? Simple Warhammer Online was developed 2008 and died in 2013. It was in development since 2005, 7th edition started in 2006. 8th Edition started in 2010.

Warhammer Online was alive during 6-8. Do not assume my opinion carries the same weight as your own.