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Re: Changelog 07/01
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:16 pm
by Genisaurus
drmordread wrote:I wish I could find these threads were buffs and nerfs are seriously discussed.
Here. It's 19 pages of serious discussion - almost none of the shitposting that usually clogs up balance threads.
drmordread wrote:Did anyone ever stop to think that the reason why the DPS WP is not the same as a DoK is because they are not supposed to be?
the DoK is the premiere DPS/Healer on Destro. On order that is the AM
The WP is the defacto healing master in WAR. On destro it is the shammie (though that is usually in t4)
The WP is not supposed to be equal to the DoK in DPS heals.
Says who? Did Mark Jacobs fall out of the sky on angel wings and whisper that into your ear? I didn't think so. This is just another way of saying, "The balance issues and lack of dev support that plagued Warhammer Online made this class better than the other, so that's the way it should be in Return of Reckoning."
Which is, you know, wrong.
Re: Changelog 07/01
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:20 pm
by Shadowgurke
Azarael wrote:
I agree. This is why I stated in my OP that if this change is of benefit and DoK should receive it as well, with that being agreed by the community, they should get it.
fair enough, thank you.
drmordread wrote:
Did anyone ever stop to think that the reason why the DPS WP is not the same as a DoK is because they are not supposed to be?
the DoK is the premiere DPS/Healer on Destro. On order that is the AM
The WP is the defacto healing master in WAR. On destro it is the shammie (though that is usually in t4)
The WP is not supposed to be equal to the DoK in DPS heals.
you are wrong in almost everything you write there. This is not an opinion.
T1:
Kamilla the Decayed, Renatta Betz and Lady Alisha now have increased chances to drop blue level 9-11 helmets and weapons with T4 appearance. All of these drops are now Bind on Equip.
Does this change retroactively affects old helmets?
Re: Changelog 07/01
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:34 pm
by Genisaurus
Shadowgurke wrote:
T1:
Kamilla the Decayed, Renatta Betz and Lady Alisha now have increased chances to drop blue level 9-11 helmets and weapons with T4 appearance. All of these drops are now Bind on Equip.
Does this change retroactively affects old helmets?
It should, but if it doesn't, it should be literally no trouble now to buy them on the AH or get one on an alt. You could
maybe ask a GM to replace the item in your inventory, but I don't think that's a service they perform.
Re: Changelog 07/01
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:36 pm
by Crenshaw
BQ hat i have on my wh is bop after patch, items in bags are boe. Circle i dropped today got bop after sending to other character.
Re: Changelog 07/01
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:51 pm
by Luth
Genisaurus wrote:drmordread wrote:I wish I could find these threads were buffs and nerfs are seriously discussed.
Here. It's 19 pages of serious discussion - almost none of the shitposting that usually clogs up balance threads.
drmordread wrote:Did anyone ever stop to think that the reason why the DPS WP is not the same as a DoK is because they are not supposed to be?
the DoK is the premiere DPS/Healer on Destro. On order that is the AM
The WP is the defacto healing master in WAR. On destro it is the shammie (though that is usually in t4)
The WP is not supposed to be equal to the DoK in DPS heals.
Says who? Did Mark Jacobs fall out of the sky on angel wings and whisper that into your ear? I didn't think so. This is just another way of saying, "The balance issues and lack of dev support that plagued Warhammer Online made this class better than the other, so that's the way it should be in Return of Reckoning."
Which is, you know, wrong.
The terrain exploit into stonetroll castle was also possible on the mythic servers for 5 years, so this was obviously intended by the original devs.
Pls revert fix. Thx.
Re: Changelog 07/01
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:20 pm
by kaela
Bozzax wrote:The side with 20% more "base" crits on melee heals is weaker. I am impressed

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that's what I tought, a tacktic slot / mastery point for free is quite some love for WP.
I hope at least for a mirror on melee Doks.

Re: Changelog 07/01
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:50 pm
by Toldavf
More dps wp in play? Well happy birthday to me

Re: Changelog 07/01
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:00 pm
by rmpl
Few days someone on the advice chat said that one dev is maining melee WP, guess he was right

Re: Changelog 07/01
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:04 pm
by Azarael
That's me.
I wonder if anyone has realized that I deliberately play classes believed to have been underpowered on the live server (SM, two-handed WP, WL) to put myself in a knowledgeable position to deal with their issues?
Re: Changelog 07/01
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:05 pm
by Penril
rmpl wrote:Few days someone on the advice chat said that one dev is maining melee WP, guess he was right

Did you read the WP discussion thread? Aza said he was leveling a WP so he could have more understanding about the class and the problems melee healers face.
Something that everyone in RoR should do (actually playing a class before talking about it).