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Re: [Suggestion] Change to Shatter Limbs

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:52 am
by Aceboltz
Nothing else to say than ad hominem argumentum?

Re: [Suggestion] Change to Shatter Limbs

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:05 am
by Sigimund
Fortunately there has been no ad hominem in this thread so far.

The argument presented is exactly the same as the Order one against Crippling Strikes: mirror equivalents are not as good, powerful effect on large groups, forces AOE cleanse meta, strong ability on strong class etc.

We can't nerf everything. The game would get very boring.

Re: [Suggestion] Change to Shatter Limbs

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:27 am
by Soulcheg
Aceboltz wrote:Nothing else to say than ad hominem argumentum?
Dessies yelling at forums every day for every Order ability. What else to say? Everyone already tired of that "NERF THEM NOW, BUT LEAVE ALL MY STUFF ALONE" attitude.

Re: [Suggestion] Change to Shatter Limbs

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:41 am
by Scrilian
Sigimund wrote:Fortunately there has been no ad hominem in this thread so far.

The argument presented is exactly the same as the Order one against Crippling Strikes: mirror equivalents are not as good, powerful effect on large groups, forces AOE cleanse meta, strong ability on strong class etc.

We can't nerf everything. The game would get very boring.
Exactly, thats why we need to nerf order, especially SW. :mrgreen:
*summons Tesqy walls of bias*

Re: [Suggestion] Change to Shatter Limbs

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:13 am
by SilverWF
Noone in his mind would take TWO SH as main DPS in the group, especially melee-SH.
I remember the time of reworking that skill - it was changed absolutely in the wrong direction: before that it was around squig. Community asked for range AOE bow attack. They made it AOE around SH. Stupid Carrie made a crap again.

2 Slayers provide a TONS of AOE damage and this is melee-meta for Order.
And SL placed in the proper tree http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=sla ... 9:;0:0:0:0:


So, do not even try to compare this two skills.
Soulcheg wrote:#PrayForDestro

#NerfOrderBecauseImPlayingDestro

Oh that daily dessies quest.
Ты не прав.

Re: [Suggestion] Change to Shatter Limbs

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:22 am
by Luth
I suggested the change the OP mentioned already at another place + the "exhaustive blow shatter limbs" should be mirrored to the choppa.
Almost every tool that the slayer/choppa has, is an exhaustive blow (crit debuff, knockdown, rampage, wounds debuff, spellbreaker, outgoing HD, etc.); that this powerful ability is just a normal hit makes absolutely no sense at all.

Please read only further, if your head doesn't explode from unconventional balancing ideas:
Spoiler:
A different approach could be, to remove the ability completely from the slayer and put it into the WL pet path.

This way it would have less of an impact on the general gameplay, as most WLs don't spec for the petpath and most SH use a range pet, that can't be forced to run into melee range to use "bad gas".

But on the other side imo WP/doks need a reminder, how real group healing feels like from time2time... :mrgreen:
And now: Let the nerdrage flow through you.

Re: [Suggestion] Change to Shatter Limbs

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:26 am
by SilverWF
Luth wrote:remove the ability completely from the slayer and put it into the WL pet path.
Would never happens.
Why?
You know why. :lol:

Re: [Suggestion] Change to Shatter Limbs

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:54 am
by Scrilian
At this point destros pretty much confirmed not being able to press couple different abilities for 10 seconds. :lol:

Re: [Suggestion] Change to Shatter Limbs

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:59 am
by paps
Qrazy wrote:Oh look it's the daily nerf order (ability) because (reasons) thread.
Told u they not stoping till Order stays with just autoattacks...and no this time i am serious.

Think is more L2P thing, i dont like to use that term but now this is to much...

let me fix this for u :D hoppe u dont mind.
Luth wrote: But on the other side imo WP/doks need a reminder, how real group healing and cleanse feels like from time2time... :mrgreen:

Re: [Suggestion] Change to Shatter Limbs

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:00 am
by Scrilian
SilverWF wrote: Stupid Carrie made a crap again.
Been around since the original slayer/choppa launch. :roll: