Return of Reckoning

Zanilos wrote:I'm confused... Are you calling 1 wb a zerg? Most of the time we are just 2FG.

For what it's worth, a zerg is only defined after the fact, by the amount of resistance a faction faces.

3wb vs 1wb, one side is zerging.
2wb vs 2wb, that's just a good fight.

You could say it should be based on a lack of organization instead, but 3 organized warbands is just a much a zerg to the outnumbered 1 warband as 3 disorganized ones. Overusing the term discourages behavior we want to see.

Zanilos wrote:I think its time the GLs from each side sit around together on a TS and make some raid nights.

I feel only this was can we get around the x realm pug issues. Its something to discuss further between us and see what we can do.

(EDIT) If any Guild leader from either side want to PM me you are more than welcome to come join our ts and have a chat and see what we can do.

In evening I will try to send your wishes to officers (if nobody has done it before).. Still as a player I see this only like honorable wb duel. Atm I don't see any really coordinated full WB except of us on destro side.

I have seen PF get shafted in the chat which amuses me because they are a big guild on destro that actually fights when everyone else logs over to the winning side, they are willing to try unlike most of the pug playerbase/other guilds.

Thanks for warm words, Ade o7

Zanilos as mostly iam wb leader for nazgul and pugs iT is not issue with enough destro the fact is there are a 1000 destro guilds with 1-3 in iT.
They lack good leading cause when i lead we take zones for Hours on end.
But even i have to log else i have war with my Wife.
And u dont need to forget alot people have holiday or really busy atm with all the festivities.
But Sadly we dont have teamspeak but add blastoise or blaziken in ur friend list and ill give u Guys a fight as we always do NAZGUL for life.

it's form long time there are too many guild on destru side, but i think too that this kind of problem should fix itself with time.

And ade i dont agree with u fast but amen to allaince. Agree 110% with ya

Tesq wrote:it's form long time there are too many guild on destru side, but i think too that this kind of problem should fix itself with time.

Who cares about thousands of random players? Until they are not well prepared (premade clasees, specs,eqip), coordinated (with voice), in number of 2-3 parties min, they have no chance against such challenge.

I remember one good fight, when with 2,5 parties we've got full WB of King's Own in dwarven tavern (BFP) and push pug to their WC and KO in tavern, lacking firepower to crush tavern at all and holding two fronts simultaneously (damn, it was the best fight since T2).

If destro players will unite in such prepared packs, then we will seriously fight. Until this, there will be x-realming after one serious push every damned time. But.. We always prefer unfair fight against overcrowd ((=

I remember one good fight, when with 2,5 parties we've got full WB of King's Own in dwarven tavern (BFP) and push pug to their WC and KO in tavern, lacking firepower to crush tavern at all and holding two fronts simultaneously (damn, it was the best fight since T2).

The thing is, we were 2 1/2 parties as well. People see us form up on edge of WC and presume we are a wb. Only maybe 3 times since tier 3 launch have we had 3 FG let alone a wb. Even when defending BFP keep the other day it was just 2 parties, including dps WP and AM.

Thank you for agreeing to this I'm sure we can sort something out to light the the fire in belly of the puggers

Yesterday in the evening we had 3 wbs (two of them not full so count it as 2,5) on destro side in t1, so it's not a problem with ratio. And many of them were alts (I spoke with some ppl).

Rebuke wrote:6 Mans (rvr) are mainly ganking groups. Not looking for fair/good fights. I can not understand how one can find this more fun than organized warband vs organized warband.

This is however, all based on just my observation from playing 1 year on RoR (EU playtime).

Idk how you came to that conclusion, 6 man groups when roaming are usually looking for good fights be it other 6 man groups or a larger force they can kite and pick off overextenders, where positioning and timing of CC shows the good players from the bad, skillful play, where as wb v wb fights are mindless wc to wc or if organised they are 3 button aoe spam fests, idk how anyone can find that fun, standing on top of 20 other players hitting 3 buttons or so hardly displays the combat system in war which we all enjoy.
As for fair i have to tip my hat to your guild and whoever leads your wb's as a few times when i was solo roaming on my dps snb blorc instead of zerging me with your 12-18 man wb you actually rode on past, i was very surprised as any other 6 man or guild wb would of had np zerging me down.

talissera wrote: If destro players will unite in such prepared packs, then we will seriously fight. Until this, there will be x-realming after one serious push every damned time. But.. We always prefer unfair fight against overcrowd ((=

No offence, but it is 9 time out of 10 PF being the overcrowded ones. Amount of times we've had decent fights in the lakes, only for PF to come with like 300 WBs and completely neuter the PvP is beyond remembering.

Agreed with Morf. It's nice to see people leaving solo players/lone wolves alone every so often =P