Nerfed Buttons

[roadkillrobin]

If you can find a way to remove all non stacking conditions from NB without affecting other crucial addons like Buffhead, Pure, Squared and Enemy then you got my vote to do it.

I do think moast people here who are against the addon don't really know how it works. It would also be very intreasting to make a new thread were people actually post what sequence they use to get a better overview of what people use it for. If its to get around game mechanics then sure ban it. If its just to merge abillties to fewer buttons the I would argue thats its a good thing for the game as it equalizes the game experience against people who got much better hardware and aids people with physical handicaps.

[Jaycub]

All of you are making up problems where there arent any. You think NB is unfair but Enemy, displaying guard range in an unintended way by AoR developers, is not? Or buffhead showing critical (de)buffs that are meant to be almost indistinguishable, due to generic icons, in the vanilla UI?

I dont use NB.

>Needing guard range indicator
>having the attention span of a 3rd grader

pick 2 m8


Also debuffs/buffs can be see in game just fine without enemy, what enemy does is presents them in a more usable fashion and allow you to apply filters etc... so you are not cluttered with useless information. Presenting information and allowing you to decide what to do with it != gathering information in the background and automatically choosing what to do (nerfed buttons).

But again NB can't do everything a good player can do (see gachi's post).

[Rebuke]

> If you actually played a tank on this server you would know how much of a help it actually is cuz #visualmanagement. But then again, what do you know?

> The filtering of (de)buffs can be regarded having the same impact as NB has; it takes away portions of having to look/think on the spot.

NB= prevent time wasted clicking skills that dont meet req's.
Buffhead= prevents time wasting abilities on targets that got e.g. guardswitched.

There is a reason the most competitive players use Buffhead, Enemy AND NerfedButtons at the same time

[Akalukz]

It would also be very intreasting to make a new thread were people actually post what sequence they use to get a better overview of what people use it for. If its to get around game mechanics then sure ban it. If its just to merge abillties to fewer buttons the I would argue thats its a good thing for the game as it equalizes the game experience against people who got much better hardware and aids people with physical handicaps.

It goes much further than simple cast sequence, although I believe a lot of folks use it just for that. For instance on a W/E you can use this string

Here you go.

/nb add [1] = [enfeebling strike]:ae:9401:+[agonizing wound]:ae:9427:+[slice]

Enfeebling strike is a running dot i can use when i am in stealth. If
you dont put that on your spamming 1 will not work when in stealth.

EDIT this is from live, not sure if Ability ID's are still correct or not.


This will allow you to use strike from stealth, while still spamming the same key (cast sequence) it will automatically choose which skill to use (AW or Slice) depending on whether or not Heart Seeker is availabl (because HS is only availble when behind the target) There for u are always using the optimal skill as AW does more from behind and Slice does more damage from side or front.

[roadkillrobin]

That is completly dependant on spec and what enemy your up against. A low armor BW would moast likley take more dmg from Slice Spam if you spec high carnage. But due to flanking. You would still want to attack him from Behind. If you use NB with that conditions you now screwed yourself over. Also If you spec high into Agonizing Wounds and for healdebuff even from the front AW prob do more damage then Slice due to no Mastery Points.

But I dont mind seing those conditions removed aslong as they dont screw up other addons.

[Akalukz]

@Roadkill I just put that in for more for informational than anything else. It just shows a very simple conditional check. You use BW as your target, how would that fair against an WP or heavy/medium armor enemy.

You can even add on macros to the end of the strings. Want to give every person in a wb that is below 80% health a HoT, there is a way to do it, without even targeting them manually it will auto pick the next person below 80 etc.

A DoK casting a HoT on all warband members who's health is below 80%:

/nb add 4 [Soul Infusion]st:1:s:f
/nb macro 4 2

[macro #2 would have the following contents: /script
NerfedMacro.Target.Friendly.NextHurt(80)]

Even this is just cast sequence, and can be done without NB etc. I just really want to focus on conditional checks myself.

[roadkillrobin]

@Akalukz Yeah I understood that was an example. And so was mine to prove that you can't set up a sequence that works for every situations.

The Macro example can be done with every single Macro Keyboard or Mouse aswell. So that would make Client Macros a problem. Not NB.

[Akalukz]

i really would like to know whether or not NB conditionals can be gutted without breaking a lot of other useful addons.

[Lindisfarne]

Ban Nerfed Buttons.

If u wanna use nerfed buttons ur ingame title should be forced to Scrub.

[Dalgrimar]

Ban Nerfed Buttons.

If u wanna use nerfed buttons ur ingame title should be forced to Scrub.

U was in our group the other day and you are definatly a scrub.
I think most people here who are against NB are scrubs cuz they cant compete so they look for some way to make the game easyer when its simply a l2p issue for them.