Return of Reckoning

Return AOE Knockdown to OYK make all Witch Elfes happy, since Witch Hunters get Repel Blasphemy I think its fair.

geezereur wrote:Return AOE Knockdown to OYK make all Witch Elfes happy, since Witch Hunters get Repel Blasphemy I think its fair.

Nice necro.

Im always frustrated when i try to gank someone in rvr, not to mention AM... If u cant kill them in ur first stun (assuming u are not using BW spec) u are kited and destroyed in hardcore mode. I would be happy just with 2 changes mentioned: +30% movement speed in stealth and 5ft snare 10 secs duration and 10s cd. I always played rogue class in other games and they have a thousand of tools to engage, scape, root, snare, stun... In this game we dont have this, i asume, but let us enemys dont :| us with dots and running only.

You can not look at WH/WE balance from a 1v1 or gank perspective. It has to be group based. I can not say it enough that once t4 comes out these classes will be significantly better than in t3. Have to look past the current level and see the tools to come from lvl 40.

No they won't as armour increases your damage will become comparatively less

That is where armor ignore comes in that these careers have (AW, Pierce Armor, Elixir). And on top of that WE has plenty of procs to push past that armor like WB + kisses. Plus T4 will allow more variety in the specs, like actually for WE to have IP + WB and also a knockdown. And then add more neat stuff on the pile there will be the self punt to catch people and disengage from a hairy situation.

shebali wrote:

Lileldys wrote:Afaik, Witchbrew isn't working the same as on live here, as nobody knows if it was based on GCD or its own form of CD ect. So its just a guess.
It's very strong and provides a crazy burst. https://www.twitch.tv/stenchypow/v/50121068
That video isn't even the best one, I couldn't be bothered to find the other.

I don't know if RoR changed it, but when mythic reworked WB in 1.3.2 there was no internal cool down. People QQ'ed and said it was too strong and it then got an internal Cooldown. I don't know what they changed it to, but more than likely 1 second per attack. It was pretty much like the sorcs Shades of Death. Because SoD use to not have a internal cooldown, but it got nerfed because of SoG + SoD = too much burst.

@Taransula would be the best person to ask as he used this spec all the time.

I played WE through 2012 and 2013 and there was no internal cd on Withbrew then. It triggered off every hit and the 6 ticks of WB would be used up in the first few gcds.

It won't get looked at till t4 anyway. If it is totally silly the devs will change it.

Annaise16 wrote:

shebali wrote:

Lileldys wrote:Afaik, Witchbrew isn't working the same as on live here, as nobody knows if it was based on GCD or its own form of CD ect. So its just a guess.
It's very strong and provides a crazy burst. https://www.twitch.tv/stenchypow/v/50121068
That video isn't even the best one, I couldn't be bothered to find the other.

I don't know if RoR changed it, but when mythic reworked WB in 1.3.2 there was no internal cool down. People QQ'ed and said it was too strong and it then got an internal Cooldown. I don't know what they changed it to, but more than likely 1 second per attack. It was pretty much like the sorcs Shades of Death. Because SoD use to not have a internal cooldown, but it got nerfed because of SoG + SoD = too much burst.

@Taransula would be the best person to ask as he used this spec all the time.

I played WE through 2012 and 2013 and there was no internal cd on Withbrew then. It triggered off every hit and the 6 ticks of WB would be used up in the first few gcds.

Except there was. And nydig linked a video showing it.

Heart Render Toxin hits harder than Puncture ?