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Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:32 pm
by Collateral
So wait, do you use big brawlin, shdr or you got nuffin? You have 4 tactic slots and you already use rugged, gws and da biggest. You switch tactics around?

And yeah, you got nuffin is not a terrific tactic.

Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:04 pm
by mohokoner1
Collateral wrote:So wait, do you use big brawlin, shdr or you got nuffin? You have 4 tactic slots and you already use rugged, gws and da biggest. You switch tactics around?

And yeah, you got nuffin is not a terrific tactic.
for RVR/pvp i go with
1.Rugged,
2. I am da Biggest,
3. Goof Wif Shield
4. Big Browling...

for PVe i am using
1. Block 10%...
2. You got Nuffin...
3. Loudmouth....
4. Stop Hitting Da Runts...

......
and yes... i switch tactics depending on pve or pvp.....
this build helps me have everything in a single package... while it works for me decently on the concept i like to play in both cases... maybe it's cause of my playstyle and gear helps a lot ^_^

Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:09 pm
by Penril
I used SHdR on a few Lair bosses. I didn't seem to be gaining any AP back. On live you were able to constantly keep Can't Hit Me! up but that doesn't seem to be the case (for me) on RoR. What are your thoughts on this?

Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:43 pm
by mohokoner1
Penril wrote:I used SHdR on a few Lair bosses. I didn't seem to be gaining any AP back. On live you were able to constantly keep Can't Hit Me! up but that doesn't seem to be the case (for me) on RoR. What are your thoughts on this?
SHdr will NOT work at max in lairs or Single targets.... just keep it in mind that...
get in IC arena for example or ANY place you can pull like 10 mobs or more... your ap will never go down... SHdr works at max as you have more and more targets on you....

while using "Da Toughest"
1 mob = 25% chance to trigger? while doing what? you spend here and there single target dmg.. while this chance to be triggered is low...
BUT
10 mobs+++ ? you boost this chance while using "You can't hit me" in every hit you get (because you deal dmg at the same time back) , so chances per second to make Da Toughest or "Da biggest" to trigger go wild....

at lairs you will probably need a setup like
1) Menace (for more aggro)
2) Rugged (For reducing dmg with toughness)
3) I'm Da biggest (for more HP)
4) Good Wif Shield (optional)
while you have a healer behind to take care of you....

don't mess PVE farming with farming lairs.... i mean pve farming like going in PQ or a spot with many mobs, taking on you like 10 mobs or even more and just kill them....

Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:57 pm
by Collateral
Penril wrote:I used SHdR on a few Lair bosses. I didn't seem to be gaining any AP back. On live you were able to constantly keep Can't Hit Me! up but that doesn't seem to be the case (for me) on RoR. What are your thoughts on this?
I used it for xp farming in arena and it worked like a charm. But I see no purpose for it in pvp.

Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:50 pm
by Penril
mohokoner1 wrote:
SHdr will NOT work at max in lairs or Single targets.... just keep it in mind that...
I remember using it in Lost Vale/ToVL against a single boss and never running out of AP. Oh well, must have been lucky with the procs back then.

Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:32 am
by mohokoner1
Penril wrote:
mohokoner1 wrote:
SHdr will NOT work at max in lairs or Single targets.... just keep it in mind that...
I remember using it in Lost Vale/ToVL against a single boss and never running out of AP. Oh well, must have been lucky with the procs back then.
well.. when i say at max... you must be really very lucky having your AP bar always at 100% just by hitting one npc...
against 4-5 or even more npcs.... you force your war bellow to be triggered more per second ^_^ just in a simplistic way
against 1 mob = 20% to trigger..
against 2 = 40%
against 3 =60%

well this isn't really true.... but you get the point.... the more they are... with can't hit me... you force the procs coming out way easier when you have many targets :) that's all :)

Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:39 am
by roadkillrobin
Bellows proc on AA aswell. So its more like 50% on each hit as long as you don't spam CHM.

Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:57 am
by Iskra
for RVR/pvp i go with
1.Rugged,
2. I am da Biggest,
3. Goof Wif Shield
4. Big Browling...


But this is for full tank yes?

Re: [Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:32 pm
by peterthepan3
^ those are decent tactics, but you'd probably want to trade out i am da biggest for YSMBD for quick M4 gain - in RvR anyway.


anybody rocking the trispec NIDF/80% phys dmg from da toughest/aoe snare? I'm thinking of trying it, but tbh I think losing THC as a DPS SNB assist would be too big a loss.