Will rifters get punished?

[Luth]

How about on the Marauder? You could throw it on monstrosity spec so its more viable.

Nice try.

Marauder/WL share many of the same abilities, why not pounce? Oh, order bias.

I only count 4 1/2. Besides that, the marauder is already the best class utility-wise; there is no need to mirror pounce to the marauder. I thought this is obvious.

[Nanji]

So shams are better healers then doks or zeals or both?

Wrong question mate. It depends on the setup, your opponents setup, the purpose of your grp and like always the strenghts and weaknesses of the player.

[Euan]

I only count 4 1/2. Besides that, the marauder is already the best class utility-wise; there is no need to mirror pounce to the marauder. I thought this is obvious.

Best class utility wise is the Knight of the Blazing Sun. Try again.

[Luth]

I only count 4 1/2. Besides that, the marauder is already the best class utility-wise; there is no need to mirror pounce to the marauder. I thought this is obvious.

Best class utility wise is the Knight of the Blazing Sun. Try again.

Damage dealers ofc (particularly melee ones); comparing a tanks utility with another archetype would be a little stupid, because of the different roles they fulfil.
Otherwise one would end in discussions like "RP/zealot flashheal is OP, cause my WH can't heal himself on the move".

[Euan]

I only count 4 1/2. Besides that, the marauder is already the best class utility-wise; there is no need to mirror pounce to the marauder. I thought this is obvious.

Best class utility wise is the Knight of the Blazing Sun. Try again.

Damage dealers ofc (particularly melee ones); comparing a tanks utility with another archetype would be a little stupid, because of the different roles they fulfil.
Otherwise one would end in discussions like "RP/zealot flashheal is OP, cause my WH can't heal himself on the move".

You said class. Anyways, Marauder has 3 abiliies in savage tree which he gives up damage for. He has Armor debuff which is on the White Lion as well, 10 sec cd, requires mutation. Thunderous blow which is strong no doubt. Chosen has an AoE wounds debuff difference is 25 wounds, they don't stack. It's an awesome move no doubt, and you would still open with it. Draining swipes is 20 second cd ability that slows ap regen, requires mutation, nothing special. What great utility does Marauder have exactly? The 3 second knockdown which requires you to give up even more damage and your crit modifier? Please enlighten me.

[Coryphaus]

Drop it Euan

You cannot put a pounce mirror on mara and you cannot put one onto WE

Mara is already a very strong class and needs no powerful movement positional tool like pounce espically considering that they have the best single target pull in the game as such they dont need some thing to help them reach their target

Likewise as i stated before you cannot put such a gap closer on a stealther like we as that would just be absurd and insane

If destro is to get a pounce mirror it would have to be on choppa and it would have to replace GtTC

[Renork]

Time to close this thread?

[Euan]

They already nerfed pounce so it doesn't matter anymore. It wouldn't make sense on choppa, especially in AoE tree. I actually think WE and WH could use more mobility but pounce is not what I had in mind. I'm curious why you think it would be game breaking on the a stealther though.

[Coryphaus]

They already nerfed pounce so it doesn't matter anymore. It wouldn't make sense on choppa, especially in AoE tree. I actually think WE and WH could use more mobility but pounce is not what I had in mind. I'm curious why you think it would be game breaking on the a stealther though.

Changing the max height to 40ft so that you can no longer reach the top of keeps is not a nerf

It makes it work as intended, you couldnt pounce on top of keeps back on live



Putting a positional tool that works as a gap closer, and escape tool on a class that can already move around with stealth would be hilariously broken

[Luth]

WH/WE don't have a charge ability for a reason.