Pug Sc queue

[7rere7]

Why are people whining about premades in a solo/duo q topic?
I dont understand... are pugs never happy?
You want to start putting stickers on people's head aswell if they are better than you and exclude them from scenarios?
If you are bad in games, just deal with it.
Dont blame it on the players who are good at it.

You elitist's are attacking those that post factual feedback from players experience in the pug only SC !
Advice :" butt out " !

I was just in the Kaines Embrace and Kali14 was correct ,at least now about Sekundus, personal tank guard and healer ,it was so obvious! This is happening at this moment!
The point of a pug only SC was for all types of skilled players to randomly play without worrying about coordinated grouping ! Its failing !!!!

Is it beyond the realms of possibility that perhaps one of the pug tanks is using guard (?!?!), and one of the pug healers is - *shudder* - healing?!

Having a personal tank is not breaking the laws. As Ade has said, you are allowed to queue as a duo.

I knew people would find something new to moan about as soon as the scenario was implemented =) Such a shame and pretty disrespectful to Ade tbh who worked to get this done.

OT: Question
If there are literally no other premades queuing for Khaines Embrace, and a 6man is queuing for it on one side - will they be paired against pugs randomly?

That's not what was happening in that SC !
It went like this,Tank , Sorc and healer immeidialty go their own way to the side of Kaines Embrace,(not tunnel route). Eventually,those three ,secure themselves next to the order respawn base ......GAME OVER !

If anyone has been a thorn to Ade side thus far on this topic ,its been you and the elitists' !
Wake up call peterpan3 but you and your lost boy elitists is not neverland anymore . There is a pug only SC in the works , just needs tweaking to get it right!

If your not part of the solution your part of the problem ......in this case your in the part of the "{problem" sector !

[7rere7]

No, surely you jest! HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?! :^)

IKR

so whose ass did you and your brother have to kiss to get around both being banned from the server?

Not surprised there! PP3 is a special elitist even on this forum !

[Gerv]

Ppl are forgetting good players are known like sekundus. I guarded him every time I saw him on the roster yday.

Maybe it is time to look at how you teamplay instead of blaming your missfortunes on cheaters?

This so much, good players get known and people who know of them recognize this and use it to their advantage.

[Saftdryck]

Why are people whining about premades in a solo/duo q topic?
I dont understand... are pugs never happy?
You want to start putting stickers on people's head aswell if they are better than you and exclude them from scenarios?
If you are bad in games, just deal with it.
Dont blame it on the players who are good at it.

You elitist's are attacking those that post factual feedback from players experience in the pug only SC !
Advice :" butt out " !

I was just in the Kaines Embrace and Kali14 was correct ,at least now about Sekundus, personal tank guard and healer ,it was so obvious! This is happening at this moment!
The point of a pug only SC was for all types of skilled players to randomly play without worrying about coordinated grouping ! Its failing !!!!

Ugh... So pug tank and a pug healer notice that someone in scenario is playing good, decide to support him with guard and focus heals to leech profit and victory, are somehow guilty of breaking your madeup rule "i should always win pug scenario". How selfish can you be? Where is your common sense? How about you L2P and stop whining when you dont win every scenario, take that experience and think up how to counter or win next time.

Cant wait till pugs next issue to whine.


PS. Great work Ade. I even saw some pugs start use their head in KE

[7rere7]

Why are people whining about premades in a solo/duo q topic?
I dont understand... are pugs never happy?
You want to start putting stickers on people's head aswell if they are better than you and exclude them from scenarios?
If you are bad in games, just deal with it.
Dont blame it on the players who are good at it.

You elitist's are attacking those that post factual feedback from players experience in the pug only SC !
Advice :" butt out " !

I was just in the Kaines Embrace and Kali14 was correct ,at least now about Sekundus, personal tank guard and healer ,it was so obvious! This is happening at this moment!
The point of a pug only SC was for all types of skilled players to randomly play without worrying about coordinated grouping ! Its failing !!!!

Ugh... So pug tank and a pug healer notice that someone in scenario is playing good, decide to support him with guard and focus heals to leech profit and victory, are somehow guilty of breaking your madeup rule "i should always win pug scenario". How selfish can you be? Where is your common sense? How about you L2P and stop whining when you dont win every scenario, take that experience and think up how to counter or win next time.

Cant wait till pugs next issue to whine.


PS. Great work Ade. I even saw some pugs start use their head in KE

Really wise post there ! However I played destruction in that SC and so did they !!!!
Ade can throw your post into the garbage bin now!!

[Penril]

Ok, everyone calm down before I lock this thread. Keep it civil.

[Haho2]

Why are people whining about premades in a solo/duo q topic?
I dont understand... are pugs never happy?
You want to start putting stickers on people's head aswell if they are better than you and exclude them from scenarios?
If you are bad in games, just deal with it.
Dont blame it on the players who are good at it.

You elitist's are attacking those that post factual feedback from players experience in the pug only SC !
Advice :" butt out " !

I was just in the Kaines Embrace and Kali14 was correct ,at least now about Sekundus, personal tank guard and healer ,it was so obvious! This is happening at this moment!
The point of a pug only SC was for all types of skilled players to randomly play without worrying about coordinated grouping ! Its failing !!!!

Ugh... So pug tank and a pug healer notice that someone in scenario is playing good, decide to support him with guard and focus heals to leech profit and victory, are somehow guilty of breaking your madeup rule "i should always win pug scenario". How selfish can you be? Where is your common sense? How about you L2P and stop whining when you dont win every scenario, take that experience and think up how to counter or win next time.

Cant wait till pugs next issue to whine.


PS. Great work Ade. I even saw some pugs start use their head in KE

i play VS "Togeather - solo join premade" secundus party have still same ppl. its premade. They only joining solo on one time...
population isnt big, its very easy...
i play today 6 Kainse Embrance games, all vs Secundus and his "Togeather solo join premade" and have 6 owning no fun SCs... if this is PUG SCs pls devs return old SCs system.

HF all

[peterthepan3]

Ok, everyone calm down before I lock this thread. Keep it civil.

People are being civil on 'our' side, however when others mention irrelevant stuff/make personal attacks and accusations (i.e. that our guild members are queuing solo as a premade) without any evidence - that's when it ain't cool, and they open themselves up for criticism.

Apologies for my part if I have derailed/gone off on a tangent.

[adei]

OK, lets not get too carried away otherwise you will have a heavily moderated thread and limited leeway, so cool it.

First of all - If you think somebody is cheating and abusing the system, lets not name and shame here, send a pm to a GM or check if we are online and it will be investigated, otherwise we end up with all of X's guys friends against Y and that just doesnt turn out well, and also lets not forget that naming and shaming is breaking our most valued rule

* First and foremost: Don't Be A ****. This means no flaming, no trolling, no disruptive behaviour, and showing respect to other players and the staff.

I would also like to say that on a personal note I have seen Mr.Sekundus play in these pug scenarios and from what I have seen hes playing by the rules here, he is in a duo queue, if it so happens that a tank is guarding him every scenario, that could just be teamplay, again these things all require investigation, so if you think this is not the case, hit us up with a PM. Otherwise leave the poor man alone.

To all the debate and hate, there are a few select people in this thread that keep coming out to show their disdain towards this system and its players, and those coming out to simply beat on their chest, either quit it now or find yourself punished, lets keep it civil as Natherul has already said earlier in this thread, this applies to all in the thread.

There have been some interesting developments within this scenario so far which I find to be rather great, I have seen pugs actually form together and choose a tactic, one of the best I have seen so far is a bunker from order which just flat out destroyed us since they used the map to their advantage. Again the map could be an issue for the duo queue and something different might help this. Either way it seems to be working better than imagined, pugs are banding together a lot more now they are given a fair chance, so that's great.

If this whole duo q continues to a big issue that it is putting people off from signing up, then it could be made into a strictly solo q, what I don't want to do is punish players ( no matter how they usually play ) for being better than your average joe, everyone has the right to use this new system, that was the whole point - if you wanted to pug you can.

[Euan]

It's not a stretch that Sekundas was just vocal for heals or guard in that scenario. I saw him looking for a duo partner in /5. I am not really that well known and was being guarded healed a few scenarios. I always ask for guard though and heals I just let healers do their job. People will gravitate towards people they recognize to be good. Sekundas is really well known. Also some people will see you doing a good job. I know I got complimented today by some Black Orc, SHuggarth or something. Same as when I was playing Destro I saw a Shadow Warrior doing well. When I logged on my Archmage I pocket healed that Shadow Warrior. I don't know Peter but I figure if you're good in organized play you'll do fine in solo and really well with a duo.
That's just my take.

I still think it should be strictly solo queue but know that these players that people recognize to be good will still get guarded and healed.