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Re: [White Lion] Pounce need a Cooldown

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 7:25 pm
by Luth
Shanell wrote:
Bretin wrote:please remove pounce and give the WL an ic hd instead. do it just for one week. it will make this whole whine squad here begging for a re implementation of pounce faster than you can count to three.
please remove heal defuff and give every melee DPS an pounce instead. do it just for one week. it will make this whole whine squad here begging for a re implementation of in hd faster that you can count to three
In case you mean pounce is stronger than the incHD: i don't think so. Without the inc HD no one will get killed in balanced group vs group or WB vs WB fights.
When the balance forum opens, i create maybe a picture that explains what the incoming healdebuff does, why it is the deadliest / most important debuff in PvP and why the outgoing HD is totally different.
There seems to exist a lot of misunderstanding about that specific debuff type.

Re: [White Lion] Pounce need a Cooldown

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 7:27 pm
by Penril
Twyxx already explained inc heal debuffs:
Spoiler:
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viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13689#p149961

Re: [White Lion] Pounce need a Cooldown

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 7:29 pm
by Luth
Can't tell what's better: Ley's signature or this.

Edit: i guess we can coincide that girls can't paint. :mrgreen:

Re: [White Lion] Pounce need a Cooldown

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 7:54 pm
by tomato
Shanell wrote:
Bretin wrote:please remove pounce and give the WL an ic hd instead. do it just for one week. it will make this whole whine squad here begging for a re implementation of pounce faster than you can count to three.
please remove heal defuff and give every melee DPS an pounce instead. do it just for one week. it will make this whole whine squad here begging for a re implementation of in hd faster that you can count to three
No incoming hd on mdps will mean you'll need to play rdps (with hd).
Nice try though.

Re: [White Lion] Pounce need a Cooldown

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 8:09 pm
by Shanell
tomato wrote:
Shanell wrote:
Bretin wrote:please remove pounce and give the WL an ic hd instead. do it just for one week. it will make this whole whine squad here begging for a re implementation of pounce faster than you can count to three.
please remove heal defuff and give every melee DPS an pounce instead. do it just for one week. it will make this whole whine squad here begging for a re implementation of in hd faster that you can count to three
No incoming hd on mdps will mean you'll need to play rdps (with hd).
Nice try though.
We also can give pounce to RDPs.
Or we can remove healers from game, due to lack of heal debuffs.

Re: [White Lion] Pounce need a Cooldown

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 8:10 pm
by nydig
The only time ive ever seen pounce be super op is when paired with a sw ranged knock down to instantly delete a squishy ranged. Pounce doesnt hit hard and when kiting if your healers cant keep you up from that you have other issues with your group.

Rather then call for nerfs look for solutions. WL is a high burst class that can move around easily but has huge ap issues and just like any other melee dps goes down fast with no guard. So, what class can exploit all of those flaws and lock down a WL? BG has a huge ap cost increaser that will make any WL useless a 5 sec knock down they cant escape from and the longest punt in the game to remove any tank guarding them.

The game isnt and never will be balanced around 1v1 make a group or a wb with diversity and learn what classes are strong vs weak against.

Re: [White Lion] Pounce need a Cooldown

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 8:18 pm
by mursie
nydig wrote: Rather then call for nerfs look for solutions.
says the guy that nerfed witch elves.

Re: [White Lion] Pounce need a Cooldown

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 8:25 pm
by nydig
mursie wrote:
nydig wrote: Rather then call for nerfs look for solutions.
says the guy that fixed witch elves.

Re: [White Lion] Pounce need a Cooldown

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:02 pm
by Annaise16
nydig wrote:The only time ive ever seen pounce be super op is when paired with a sw ranged knock down to instantly delete a squishy ranged. Pounce doesnt hit hard and when kiting if your healers cant keep you up from that you have other issues with your group.

Rather then call for nerfs look for solutions. WL is a high burst class that can move around easily but has huge ap issues and just like any other melee dps goes down fast with no guard. So, what class can exploit all of those flaws and lock down a WL? BG has a huge ap cost increaser that will make any WL useless a 5 sec knock down they cant escape from and the longest punt in the game to remove any tank guarding them.

The game isnt and never will be balanced around 1v1 make a group or a wb with diversity and learn what classes are strong vs weak against.

If healers are letting themselves get knocked down by a rdps, they are failing at situational awareness and deserve to be killed. Heals have a 150 ft range for a reason. Squishy healers should be using it.

Re: [White Lion] Pounce need a Cooldown

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:06 pm
by Ridduk
Mirror it to choppa , changing the pull to a pounce called "I believe i can fly" (in orc gibberish ofc) ;)