[WITCH ELF] amelioration

[quler]

3k on squishy yep - it's our primary targets. In ROR 6 bloodlust?
Taking BW requares full tree - so no PA+ less damage from AW... equal tradeoff? Hardly...
Game changes - there it is? Link please.

[Lileldys]

PA is just lolburst which just doesn't work outside of PUG situations. Try running a PA/IP WE in a proper 6v6 or similar. You'll do nothing without a heal debuff and proper damage/cover usage.

WB is currently a guess at what devs thought it was. There are no videos showing how it worked, and if you can find one, send it their way.

[quler]

Oke, oke. Y r 146% right. Game changes in ROR please- I need to know the whole thing.

[Toldavf]

Thing is atm witch brew is delivered far to quickly but I'm not calling for anything to be done until T4. I don't remember WB being this good in live (would of been allot more QQ threads about it for starters) but at the end of the day its in the devs hands.

[Tklees]

Cleanse useable every 10 seconds? And how y gonna shatter Repel then he hidden by aa buff? Feels like EA forums.. and witchbrew is a cowshit compared to EW...
As a upper hand we have disrupt in our primary skill line.. that's all... and we ARE sexy.

I'll give you the AA buff thing but it can still be severed non the less and can also just be kited out. Because if you're specing that it's most likely ganking/solo play or else you're playing in a group without heal debuff specd. And lastly cleanse has a 5 second CD. And in a normal setting for a WH, playing against a group with two doks, 2 cleanses every 5 seconds.

And your "primary" target in group play is normally a healer, over 50% of which are doks, or a guarded dps. Yes EW can crit for the amazing 3k that you have so valiently discribed for us but it's 3k on a minute long cool down due to the need for SoD. So it's more like 1.5k on a more consistent base. While when compared to Witchbrew, it does non physical dps, does not rely on RNG of crit, can be preloaded, and is usable every 10 seconds to its full effect.

[shebali]

Afaik, Witchbrew isn't working the same as on live here, as nobody knows if it was based on GCD or its own form of CD ect. So its just a guess.
It's very strong and provides a crazy burst. https://www.twitch.tv/stenchypow/v/50121068
That video isn't even the best one, I couldn't be bothered to find the other.

I don't know if RoR changed it, but when mythic reworked WB in 1.3.2 there was no internal cool down. People QQ'ed and said it was too strong and it then got an internal Cooldown. I don't know what they changed it to, but more than likely 1 second per attack. It was pretty much like the sorcs Shades of Death. Because SoD use to not have a internal cooldown, but it got nerfed because of SoG + SoD = too much burst.

@Taransula would be the best person to ask as he used this spec all the time.

[dirnsterer]

WE is better in group setting, WH is in ganking. It pretty much always was like that and is here too. Although M4 heal debuff WH can be a monster in group but that needs a group tailored for it almost as it is M4 and getting to there takes time.

And I have a memory similiar to Shebali, WB was like this when it came out of the oven with the WE revamp and then throw in forum QQ -> it got internal CD. Personally I am fine with how it is now, although naturally I am super biased on this matter. And I never really ran OYK and such specs, only on few occasions so eeeeven better.

[Tklees]

Afaik, Witchbrew isn't working the same as on live here, as nobody knows if it was based on GCD or its own form of CD ect. So its just a guess.
It's very strong and provides a crazy burst. https://www.twitch.tv/stenchypow/v/50121068
That video isn't even the best one, I couldn't be bothered to find the other.

I don't know if RoR changed it, but when mythic reworked WB in 1.3.2 there was no internal cool down. People QQ'ed and said it was too strong and it then got an internal Cooldown. I don't know what they changed it to, but more than likely 1 second per attack. It was pretty much like the sorcs Shades of Death. Because SoD use to not have a internal cooldown, but it got nerfed because of SoG + SoD = too much burst.

@Taransula would be the best person to ask as he used this spec all the time.

a thread was made on this a while back and nydig linked a vid showing at least some form of ICD, video quality couldnt give us a real time for sure. I believe its current form is not game breaking and is a buff WEs needed to have a finisher on par with the WHs finishers.

[tomato]

I believe its current form is not game breaking and is a buff WEs needed to have a finisher on par with the WHs finishers.

"on par"

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[Tklees]

I believe its current form is not game breaking and is a buff WEs needed to have a finisher on par with the WHs finishers.

"on par"

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ok, fine im under selling it. Better than any they have at the moment.