Return of Reckoning

StormX2 wrote:Why is it not okay to introduce a limit to stacking of kegs in order to reduce the scale issue in keep defenses?

Because there is no issue, until someone can prove that a 10 keg engi WB can beat the destro WB i mentioned.

StormX2 wrote:

Grunbag wrote:

StormX2 wrote:Why is it not okay to introduce a limit to stacking of kegs in order to reduce the scale issue in keep defenses?

How keg is an issue in keep defence ?
Please give an exemple of wb 24vs24 to explain it

I believe the issue is not in small scale rvr ( so I do not believe 24vs24 is a good example), but as the numbers scale higher the issue begins to present itself.

Hmm If u scale higher than 24 vs 24 much higher i Cant See that Tons of kegs dat stack an gvie more heals than like The Best grp heal can be not OP

Why having the keg healing only party would nerf a lot keg :
Let imagine a premade or organised party :
2 tanks 2 heals 1engineer tinkerer and 1bw
First the engineer would not stack his keg with anyother one .
Then where to put your keg ? On healer and bw so the 2 tanks wold be out of keg range ? And engineer would be on the back to cannot attack any destro(-40% range debuff cause of flameturret) so he won't make any single damage .
If engineer place his keg on 2 tanks keg would only heal the 2 tanks (we move from 9 target out of party to 2 target in party)
In any case keg would only heal half of party

Penril wrote:

StormX2 wrote:Why is it not okay to introduce a limit to stacking of kegs in order to reduce the scale issue in keep defenses?

Because there is no issue, until someone can prove that a 10 keg engi WB can beat the destro WB i mentioned.

Cause of the engi dont have to be in the wb to Group heal tham

Daknallbomb wrote:

Penril wrote:

StormX2 wrote:Why is it not okay to introduce a limit to stacking of kegs in order to reduce the scale issue in keep defenses?

Because there is no issue, until someone can prove that a 10 keg engi WB can beat the destro WB i mentioned.

Cause of the engi dont have to be in the wb to Group heal tham

Then we are talking about a WB + adds vs a WB, where larger numbers will obviously have an advantage. What part don't you get?

SHOW ME that a 24-man which has 10 Keg engies will roflpwnstomp a balanced Destro WB with AoE Sorcs/Choppas/Magus/DPS Zealot + a few maras and real healers.

After 18 pages, I'm starting to confirm what I initially thought: that Keg is a pug-only issue and therefore I shouldn't have moved this to Discussions (per Balance Discussions forum rules).

That doesent madder. Its The fact that a wb + 10 engi (nonhealer) vs a wb +10 what ever u want has a big advabtage in a Statik Fight like flags or lord room cause The non healer engi can stack up a 3k,grp heal to 9 ppl of the wb... Hell a 10 other healer cNt Do something like that

Do you think 10 healer add to 24 wb would make less heal that 10 engineer add of a 24 wb ?

Daknallbomb wrote:That doesent madder. Its The fact that a wb + 10 engi (nonhealer) vs a wb +10 what ever u want has a big advabtage in a Statik Fight like flags or lord room cause The non healer engi can stack up a 3k,grp heal to 9 ppl of the wb... Hell a 10 other healer cNt Do something like that

Incorrect. Doks spamming Khaine's Refreshment will heal people for way more than a Keg can ever dream of.

So far, no one has proved that (given equal numbers) a keg-engi WB can beat the destro WB I mentioned. Also, no one has proved that Keg can save someone from a Sorc rotation, or from being focused by a coordinated group. Until someone does, I don't see an issue with Keg.

User has been issued a warning for this post. There has been enough warnings for everyone to know we don't allow ****-posting - Penril.

Doks are mayb a healing class?.. Aww me rly out ast Post u ppl got youre thing