Dear DPS Healers.. from Us

[Deadpoet]

I completely agree with Azarael that just because AM is a healer archetype it doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to dps. After reading posts about this I have gradually changed my mind and now I am fully in favour of letting everyone play their class as they want. We want diversity and freedom in this game imho.

The only small thing I would like to add is that, as Azarael has admitted, AM is imbalanced 1v1. But the devs aren't dealing with 1v1 issues, at least for now. And it's understandable, as the amount of group play balancing work to do is still huge.

All in all I think balance is a good thing, not only with a 6man perspective in mind. 1v1 also deserves balance imho.

BUT
I don't think arguments that in the end boil down to "AMs should be healing me instead of dps'ing" aren't acceptable. There is something called "freedom" and "variety" and it should apply to a game too. ESPECIALLY to a game.

Also, the people who, like me, think that dps AM and Shaman are ridiculously imbalanced 1v1, sometimes are accused of whining because we have been killed by one and can't take it, or because a dps AM has gotten better numbers than us. For some of us, those assumptions are insulting. Isn't it possible to believe that some of us don't base our opinions about the game on who killed us or who put out better numbers in a sc?

I might be an idealist, but I think the balance in this game should be focused on an objective principle: RISK vs REWARD.

DPS AM and shaman class design blatantly flouts this principle.

I will only make a suggestion: Move some of the AM dps and lifetap skills further up the trees so that they don't lose any of their abilities but have to wait until late t3 or t4 where they won't be such an imbalancing factor in 1v1. I am now appealing NOT to mirroring, but to take example from other classes that are far more balanced between their offensive and their support potential. Runepriests has an approximately equal amount of DoTs and heal on damage abilities, only RPs have to wait until near lvl 40 to have all those tools, while already in t1 AMs have most of their DoTs and lifetap.

The ideal thing for me would be to buff AM's support to make them equally desirable for a 6 man setup as a RP or WP, and not to nerf, but to rearrange their offensive potential to easily avoid imbalance issues.

[Mindmaker]

Also to that argument about "thinking more about winning".
A won game where everybody was spewing bile around them, is a lot more frustrating and less fun than a lost game where everybody was civil.

I've played a lot of healers over the years in various MMOs and I don't remember ever refusing to heal out of spite (I don't think I've ever got in a serious argumen about it, just generalized insults hurled at all player involved and keeping a list would be too much of a hassle anyway), but I really can't blame people that do that.

[Bretin]

what is this 18 pages bullsh1t thread?

DPS AM is totally viable in a rdps group and the best solo class in the game.
DPS DoK is totally viable in a mdps group and does sick damage.
DPS WP lacks HD to fit 100% into the metagame but is decent in general.
DPS Shaman is viable in a rdps group but lacks the old Get'n Smarter which was removed totally unnecessary. Compared to AM he has more survivability, therefor 2 dots less - still viable.
DPS Zealot is epic in large scale and can bomb like a mad one. ST he sucks tho.
DPS Runepriest is epic in large scale and can bomb like a mad one. ST he sucks tho.

all of them have their use and can considered viable after some small tweaks. no idea what this bitching here is about.

#vote4close

edit:
every class has 3 mastery trees (for a good reason). nobody in WAR is forced to play one fcking spec who is determined by the pugs - those who lack knowledge anyway -. if the guy who plays the class enjoys his spec and if he can make it work, ffs be quiet or get a group which fits to your ideals.

[dirnsterer]

Healer shaman today asked tanks to guard DPS. He got the guard.

[Soulcheg]

Proper wb setup.

Chosen/Kotbs
BO/SM (maybe BG/IB)
Sorc/BW
Slayer/Choppa
DoK/WP
Zealot/RP (maybe AM/Shaman)

x4.

No place for any of the "DPS" healers.

[Bretin]

that might be the ideal in russia but nowhere else.

[dirnsterer]

Proper wb setup.

Chosen/Kotbs
BO/SM (maybe BG/IB)
Sorc/BW
Slayer/Choppa
DoK/WP
Zealot/RP (maybe AM/Shaman)

x4.

No place for any of the "DPS" healers.

Not gonna agree with that. And even if I would, it would be 3x that. Group 4 is always for filthy degenerates like AM's and Shamans.

[Soulcheg]

that might be the ideal in russia but nowhere else.

More DPS healers in WB - easier to farm IC. Please, persuade more destro heals to spec DPS, thank you in advance.

[Bretin]

More DPS healers in WB - easier to farm IC. Please, persuade more destro heals to spec DPS, thank you in advance.

yet, you don't even farm oRvR. i fail to see how you guys would manage to deal with a proper destru warband

[Soulcheg]

More DPS healers in WB - easier to farm IC. Please, persuade more destro heals to spec DPS, thank you in advance.

yet, you don't even farm oRvR. i fail to see how you guys would manage to deal with a proper destru warband

Playing since CBT EU. I saw enough WB on WB. As a deftard BG (mostly) i always was in the city ciege WB. Morale push + AoE abilities - and any ST wb or DPS healz wb will be burned in a half of the minute. No matter if this is destro dps healz, or order. So i have to thank you in advance again, if you persuade as much healers, as you only can.