Return of Reckoning

Penril wrote:

Gobtar wrote:
But not a Silence, yes not all specs are going to mean that you get ALL of your toys, the fact that DYG /CW is now a 9 point spec is absolutely amazing for BO and SMs, I think this was a smart move, as it allows SMs to go the viable 2h spec and get CC, and BOs can go glass cannon and keep one of their hardest hitting skills (SnB Killa with DyG is awesomesauce too)

Soul Killer + Choking Fury > Silence. Silence shares immunity with KD, so it is better to use a KD on your target (also, silenced characters can still use potions while KD can't). And if he is still alive when he gets up, he will already have SK and CF on him. If BoR is changed to a KD with no other requirement, a BG would be able to do all that by himself.

I have been arguing that BoR should still requires Parry, 15 Hatred, and 2hander, for a KD. Right now a BG can do everythign you just said already, and is still more surviable and the KD is 5 seconds, which is better than a little bit of white damage.

You understimate the power of white damage on an armor-debuffed target while you got a Hastened Doom buff and use a tier 3 influence 2H (or SC one).

Especially is that tier 3 inf wep has a 2.0 speed

Yeah the only difference between what would happen with BoR being a knockdown and what SnB BG's can do with the current build is that the 2H BG would have a bit more damage, a shorter knockdown, and be much, much squishier.

zabis wrote:Especially is that tier 3 inf wep has a 2.0 speed

I was about to add that.

Penril wrote:You understimate the power of white damage on an armor-debuffed target while you got a Hastened Doom buff and use a tier 3 influence 2H (or SC one).

Not in the slightest, a 1handers still under the effect of Hastened doom, will still do decent damage considering you have an extra 2 seconds were you also have additional attacks and abilities triggering. It's also hard stay that far in the back line while you get blasted at range cause you have no shield. You can't balance the game in a vacuum. a 5 Second KD is much more useful in the group dynamic then a 3s KD ever will. It's practically a death sentence.

Not to mention, AA does not trigger while using Enraged Beatings which has alot of burst due to crits from filled with fury. Your white damage is less likely to crit in general, but if you are arguing that two hander BGs should only just be as offensive as SnB BG, while giving up a considerable chunck of survivability and utility I think you missed the point.

Ok. Go for it. Change BoR to a 3 sec KD.



On a different topic, any1 wants to level with me? Need to get my BG to 31.

Penril wrote:Ok. Go for it. Change BoR to a 3 sec KD.



On a different topic, any1 wants to level with me? Need to get my BG to 31.

Your guild needs a BG now?

Torquemadra wrote: I know 2 hander blackguards on live who would have destroyed you without blinking all without this imaginary 2 hander KD that the crybabies are clamoring for.

1v1 doesnt matter brah.

Torquemadra wrote:
The devs on live spent YEARS building the classes and they all operate within very small parameters of each other which given that they are not, and should not be clones is pretty damned miraculous, and while small tweaks and small changes should be made gaining a class changing ability like a KD on a 2 hander when one wasnt present prior is comical and frankly idiotic because it will set a precedent of giving stupid people what they THINK they want and then the poor overworked devs on this produce will have nothing but reams of begging and crying to go through. Carrie did this with her massively simple design on the lakes, free rr and gear and it was excremental

But I get that you just want everything, you are just a product of society today but you should be careful of what you wish for

If you think those devs were perfect at balancing the game i invite you to look for any 2008 video that includes BWs.

They **** up BIG TIME with a lot of things. The "those devs knew better" card is completely useless.