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Re: Questions regarding Leading Shots and Dity Tricks

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:16 am
by Mastodon
Challenge is the same for all tanks.

Re: Questions regarding Leading Shots and Dity Tricks

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:11 am
by Tesq
Azarael wrote:
You have a 10% more chance to stop melee/ranged and magic attacks better than chosen which on guards damage can be better depending from the damage source.
Guard is ALWAYS a melee attack from within your frontal cone, regardless of the source of the damage that triggered it.
Do they get assigned as melee attack always? i didn't remember like that, well if it's this way nice but the talk was about challenge and how was easier for order dps remove it from you which is not the case for destru dps and it dosen't have to do with guard anyway.

Re: Questions regarding Leading Shots and Dity Tricks

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:59 am
by Nanji
Tesq wrote:
Azarael wrote:
You have a 10% more chance to stop melee/ranged and magic attacks better than chosen which on guards damage can be better depending from the damage source.
Guard is ALWAYS a melee attack from within your frontal cone, regardless of the source of the damage that triggered it.
Do they get assigned as melee attack always? i didn't remember like that, well if it's this way nice but the talk was about challenge and how was easier for order dps remove it from you which is not the case for destru dps and it dosen't have to do with guard anyway.
You will have to test which skill/dot (?) counts towards challenge.
Inform us about the outcome then we can talk. Right now it is just an assumption.

Re: Questions regarding Leading Shots and Dity Tricks

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:17 pm
by Tesq
em assumption on what? guard does not remove challenge stack :/
which is why it's irrelevant in either way about which realm can make their "challenge" last longer.

Re: Questions regarding Leading Shots and Dity Tricks

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:24 pm
by Luth
He means it needs to be tested if challenge is removed by dot ticks or only direct damage/autoattacks.
Iirc it should only work on direct damage/AA.

Edit: according to aza, it is removed on dot ticks too atm. Maybe someone has a video available to show how it was working correctly.

Re: Questions regarding Leading Shots and Dity Tricks

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:44 pm
by Scrilian
Luth wrote:He means it needs to be tested if challenge is removed by dot ticks or only direct damage/autoattacks.
Iirc it should only work on direct damage/AA.

Edit: according to aza, it is removed on dot ticks too atm. Maybe someone has a video available to show how it was working correctly.
I even recall having removed 3 stacks of challenge in 1 gcd somehow :|

Re: Questions regarding Leading Shots and Dity Tricks

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 3:14 pm
by Tesq
apply a dot have also a chance de-mount you so is probable that they also count as direct hit.
But again what this have to do with guards?

Re: Questions regarding Leading Shots and Dity Tricks

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 3:22 pm
by Penril
Tesq wrote: Do they get assigned as melee attack always? i didn't remember like that, well if it's this way nice but the talk was about challenge and how was easier for order dps remove it from you which is not the case for destru dps and it dosen't have to do with guard anyway.
Tesq wrote:apply a dot have also a chance de-mount you so is probable that they also count as direct hit.
But again what this have to do with guards?
Make up your mind. We were talking about Challenge, and people were saying that Dots can remove Challenge too. No one said anything about Dots and guard.

Re: Questions regarding Leading Shots and Dity Tricks

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 3:58 pm
by bloodi
Penril wrote:Make up your mind. We were talking about Challenge, and people were saying that Dots can remove Challenge too. No one said anything about Dots and guard.
I thought the talk was about finding stupid things about why the Order is better.

Re: Questions regarding Leading Shots and Dity Tricks

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:00 pm
by Penril
bloodi wrote:
Penril wrote:Make up your mind. We were talking about Challenge, and people were saying that Dots can remove Challenge too. No one said anything about Dots and guard.
I thought the talk was about finding stupid things about why the Order is better.
Order has more dwarfs than destro.