Return of Reckoning

mryay wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:41 pm @devs May I ask you the rationale for removing the access to the broadhead arrow in Assault for the Shadow Warrior, please?

Currently, breaks substantially the effectiveness and the fun of main aSW gameplay. Any explanations are welcome because I honestly fail to see the need here.

Thanks

cursedflesh wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:32 pm

mryay wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:41 pm @devs May I ask you the rationale for removing the access to the broadhead arrow in Assault for the Shadow Warrior, please?

Currently, breaks substantially the effectiveness and the fun of main aSW gameplay. Any explanations are welcome because I honestly fail to see the need here.

Thanks

Surprised me too, we cant make target ailing to apply heal debuff now. Bet its because of moving shadowstep to lower position and devs are afraid of asw using split arrows tactic.

Well, an effort to suppress single target melee continues ...

VindicoAtrum wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:22 pm

cursedflesh wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:32 pm

mryay wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:41 pm @devs May I ask you the rationale for removing the access to the broadhead arrow in Assault for the Shadow Warrior, please?

Currently, breaks substantially the effectiveness and the fun of main aSW gameplay. Any explanations are welcome because I honestly fail to see the need here.

Thanks

Surprised me too, we cant make target ailing to apply heal debuff now. Bet its because of moving shadowstep to lower position and devs are afraid of asw using split arrows tactic.

Well, an effort to suppress single target melee continues ...

Having tried to keep playing assault sw since the patch it's just painful, the spec is GUTTED. Shadowstep feels pointless half the time, the -10% on defences for nothing was gutting, can't apply shadow sting reliably, it's just... awful. I fully expect the few assault SWs will pack it in, go skirm, or go to another class.

wargrimnir wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:53 pm GM's don't make changes to the game. They can bring it up to a dev if they see something being abused.
This isn't the first time we've blocked off areas that should otherwise be inaccessible, and it's very unlikely to be the last time.
Areas like this are reported or discovered almost exclusively when players abuse them, GM's are called when players abuse something.
The extent of the abuse usually results in a faster response. Putting half a warband of dwarfs on an inaccessible tower (unless you run through a 60s PvE route and try to make a non-trivial jump that could be blocked by player collision all while getting shot at) makes it a pretty easy decision.
Roleplay is no excuse, we have never encouraged or approved their guild to add inaccessible spots to their little strategy book of whatever.

Kragg wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:33 pm

wargrimnir wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:53 pm GM's don't make changes to the game. They can bring it up to a dev if they see something being abused.
This isn't the first time we've blocked off areas that should otherwise be inaccessible, and it's very unlikely to be the last time.
Areas like this are reported or discovered almost exclusively when players abuse them, GM's are called when players abuse something.
The extent of the abuse usually results in a faster response. Putting half a warband of dwarfs on an inaccessible tower (unless you run through a 60s PvE route and try to make a non-trivial jump that could be blocked by player collision all while getting shot at) makes it a pretty easy decision.
Roleplay is no excuse, we have never encouraged or approved their guild to add inaccessible spots to their little strategy book of whatever.

Just because the melee ball can't do anything against our specialized team doesnt mean it is not fair game. In fact, that same warband went up to wipe us. There are hills, towers and cliffs around for a reason.

And rather nice you place us in the 'abuse' section of things. Well played, War. Classy.

GM's are not called , GM got shot and somehow got his way within a day. Never mind that PvE ambushes has been a tactic employed by all guilds throughbout the server, helers on pve and dps fighting in rvr has been around for ages. Might want to focus on tier 3 city gateway not allowing order to do damage. Focus on a niche group instead. Moving into PvE and jumping at Bo's has been a valid tactic, unless we do it ofcourse. PnP got ambushed, PnP got back at us. Same range, same option. That they bring a melee warband is up to them, not us.

VindicoAtrum wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:22 pm

cursedflesh wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:32 pm

mryay wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:41 pm @devs May I ask you the rationale for removing the access to the broadhead arrow in Assault for the Shadow Warrior, please?

Currently, breaks substantially the effectiveness and the fun of main aSW gameplay. Any explanations are welcome because I honestly fail to see the need here.

Thanks

Surprised me too, we cant make target ailing to apply heal debuff now. Bet its because of moving shadowstep to lower position and devs are afraid of asw using split arrows tactic.

Well, an effort to suppress single target melee continues ...

Having tried to keep playing assault sw since the patch it's just painful, the spec is GUTTED. Shadowstep feels pointless half the time, the -10% on defences for nothing was gutting, can't apply shadow sting reliably, it's just... awful. I fully expect the few assault SWs will pack it in, go skirm, or go to another class.