T2

[Vigfuss]

IMO providing more than one avenue of attack makes for better game play. It allows for counter strategy. Then the other side has to react and counter the counter, and it can go back and forth. It ends up being much more interesting than just trying to force your way through one choke point.

[Shutyergob]

Here's an idea: why not have different zones use different mechanics for rvr. What I mean is: one zone could require a keep to be built up to 5 stars or whatever before you can attack the other keep.

Meanwhile, another zone would not require that. You can attack the keep whenever, ie just go do it, take the keep and lock the zone.

Meanwhile another zone would use Victory Points to lock the zone. And the zones could rotate with each reset, so it wouldn't get stale.

And at times all the zones could be using the same mechanic, and at other times all would be different, and still at other times they'd be two zones using the 'keep 5 star system' and only 1 zone would use the 'Victory Point System'... etc...

In other words they'd always be rotating, and random and wouldn't get stale.

I realize it'd be harder to implement, and probably would have a lot of bugs, but it certainly would help keep things from getting stale.

[Tesq]

just and crasy thinking here

Anyone played wow the old alterac valley?
what if we make the t4 zones like it bascly
so no zone locks / control in t4
all keeps are attackable if you own a keep you get a lord inside the fortress
flags are respawn points
collect skulls to summon bloodthrister and the like

Fun idea but not good for the game, 9 zone are too much, they will basically spread too much action, this is game where you suppose to have wbs vs wbs; alredy 3 zone should spread enough the zerg if a dedicated system is provide, it's not a problem of zone but a efficent system that spread the zerg,....zerg stay in 1 zone even if you open 9 maps.

Spoiler:

Here's an idea: why not have different zones use different mechanics for rvr. What I mean is: one zone could require a keep to be built up to 5 stars or whatever before you can attack the other keep.

Meanwhile, another zone would not require that. You can attack the keep whenever, ie just go do it, take the keep and lock the zone.

Meanwhile another zone would use Victory Points to lock the zone. And the zones could rotate with each reset, so it wouldn't get stale.

And at times all the zones could be using the same mechanic, and at other times all would be different, and still at other times they'd be two zones using the 'keep 5 star system' and only 1 zone would use the 'Victory Point System'... etc...

In other words they'd always be rotating, and random and wouldn't get stale.

I realize it'd be harder to implement, and probably would have a lot of bugs, but it certainly would help keep things from getting stale.

i Dont get why you would rotate the system when the stars system is poor designed, also introduce something like that do not solve the problem we are looking to solve it creat diversity but is not what we are looking for.
Moreover it's basicaly more work for dev.

[karib]

Don't flame me... but will T2 open before or after the summer school holidays ?

[Tesq]

Don't flame me... but will T2 open before or after the summer school holidays ?

"soon"

[noisestorm]

Don't flame me... but will T2 open before or after the summer school holidays ?

If i have to give a wild guess, id say before September :p

[Kaitanaroyr]

Thread is too long, didn't lead. But I saw something about keeps? If I can add 2 cents please re-create the greatness that was tier 2 keeps at release. A few ideas;

1 ramp. Please. This creates long stands, and ramp congestion which allows for the long awaited 'CHARGE" up the ramp, or the coordinated 'They are wiping, push down' fun times.

Defense ticks, keep rewarding the players for being there actively defending. Not sure why Mythic removed this. Think it was every 3-4 mins or so.

Put the renown vendors back in the keeps. Add the guards back. Add the lords and bodyguards back.

Put the bloody/gail runner equivalent gear for T2 on the keep guards and keep lord.

No need to remove second ramp made it more challenging wasn't hard to hold a tank wall at the gate as long as they don't add those stupid wizzy pots those completely destroyed any point of tank walling defense ticks are needed to keep people defending

[Bozzax]

When it is reasonably balanced 2 ramps, when it is unbalanced 1 ramp* and when it crazy imbalanced at least give defenders a last stand by moving flag/lord/guards to the top floor of the keep

*Blocking second ramp with a few extra guards/rubble/barrels spawns

[Sulorie]

When it is totally imbalanced, then defenders leave the keep to gank attackers with high aao. Wouldn't have a problem with it. This is how it would work in real life. When you can't beat your enemy in an open fight, set traps and ambush them over and over and retreat before they can react.
Don't help underdog defenders directly, but give incentives to switch to the underdog side.

Btw, xpoff would help to have chars on both sides ready to switch factions.

[Tesq]

Not only that you can litteraly kill the enemy from behind when they enter inside keep , taking their tail, reset timer have that use, counter push from second ramp worked a lot of times in past.