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Re: White Lion - Pounce
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:48 pm
by TenTonHammer
Tiggo wrote:if i can trade a snare on the stupid useless pet to a snare on my char, im all for it ^^
So drop the perma snare by pet for 2 reliable snares on the WL?
I mean I'd be ok with that, but I'm not a "WL main"
Re: White Lion - Pounce
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:01 pm
by OldPlayer
White Lion pet does not have snare unless White Lion player uses Trained to Threaten buff.
The question is: why use this particular buff, when there is certain very important tactic improving the different buff?
Therefore unless WL player decides to use Trained to Threaten, he/she is limited to only one snare. Good luck to put it right after using Pounce.
Re: White Lion - Pounce
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:04 pm
by Mausini
I think we are discussing a to complex solution for the problem with Pounce.
Effect now:
The WL pounces to the spot where the target was at the moment the WL started pouncing.
Fixed Effect:
The WL pounces to the spot where the target is when the WL touches ground.
Include a short CD of 5 seconds and the problem is solved.
Re: White Lion - Pounce
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:17 pm
by Bozzax
OldPlayer wrote:White Lion pet does not have snare unless White Lion player uses Trained to Threaten buff.
The question is: why use this particular buff, when there is certain very important tactic improving the different buff?
Therefore unless WL player decides to use Trained to Threaten, he/she is limited to only one snare. Good luck to put it right after using Pounce.
Hint: Before you writing something like this you may want to consider what is the ap cost, cd and gcd of ttt, tth, ttk
Hint 2: How useful is AA haste out of melee range? (when pet based snare also has a value)
Re: White Lion - Pounce
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:19 pm
by Tiggo
OldPlayer wrote:White Lion pet does not have snare unless White Lion player uses Trained to Threaten buff.
The question is: why use this particular buff, when there is certain very important tactic improving the different buff?
Therefore unless WL player decides to use Trained to Threaten, he/she is limited to only one snare. Good luck to put it right after using Pounce.
pssst ^^
Re: White Lion - Pounce
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:20 pm
by Tiggo
Mausini wrote:I think we are discussing a to complex solution for the problem with Pounce.
Effect now:
The WL pounces to the spot where the target was at the moment the WL started pouncing.
Fixed Effect:
The WL pounces to the spot where the target is when the WL touches ground.
Include a short CD of 5 seconds and the problem is solved.
AFAIK this is currently not possible to change, hence the workaround.
Re: White Lion - Pounce
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:46 pm
by Mausini
Ok. What a pitty.
Why don't we do it the other way around? Instead of rooting the target we give the WL a short speed burst? This would also help the pet to stick to him...
Tiggo wrote:Mausini wrote:I think we are discussing a to complex solution for the problem with Pounce.
Effect now:
The WL pounces to the spot where the target was at the moment the WL started pouncing.
Fixed Effect:
The WL pounces to the spot where the target is when the WL touches ground.
Include a short CD of 5 seconds and the problem is solved.
AFAIK this is currently not possible to change, hence the workaround.
Re: White Lion - Pounce
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:57 pm
by Mausini
Does it still cause that collition issues? Or do you cange something and that issue might not accure anymore?
Torquemadra wrote:Tiggo wrote:Mausini wrote:I think we are discussing a to complex solution for the problem with Pounce.
Effect now:
The WL pounces to the spot where the target was at the moment the WL started pouncing.
Fixed Effect:
The WL pounces to the spot where the target is when the WL touches ground.
Include a short CD of 5 seconds and the problem is solved.
AFAIK this is currently not possible to change, hence the workaround.
WLs used to pounce to where the target was on WAR, it caused significant collision issues which is why it was changed on WAR by Mythic.
Re: White Lion - Pounce
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:13 pm
by Penril
It's been 2 weeks since this thread was created. Time to lock it and wait for Aza's conclusions.
Re: White Lion - Pounce
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:13 pm
by Azarael
We will start small with a 5 second cooldown and no further changes. This topic will be reopened for further discussion in the near future.