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Re: Pug Sc queue

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:15 am
by Suriael
Yeah it does not work. Playing pug SC this morning, every time same destro people. I find it hardly possible no one else wanted to play scenarios from destro side. On order side, there was nice rotation of people.

Re: Pug Sc queue

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:22 am
by peterthepan3
7rere7 wrote:"The appearance of preorganisation worries you? "

Kaines Embrace is intended to be zero preorganized by players and completely random?
From reading the forum and my experience it seems it may purposely already evolving away from that direction !

I was in about 3 times Kaines Embrace , and it did appear that Sekundus had and organized healer ,(not sure on tank guard) . I say organized because the play style was definitely focused together and the Sorc gody stats,( I am not bias, I played destruction side).
So what are you saying: prohibit good players who queue as a duo (which is allowed btw) so that you can have an even easier experience than you already have?

Re: Pug Sc queue

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:30 am
by 7rere7
peterthepan3 wrote:
7rere7 wrote:"The appearance of preorganisation worries you? "

Kaines Embrace is intended to be zero preorganized by players and completely random?
From reading the forum and my experience it seems it may purposely already evolving away from that direction !

I was in about 3 times Kaines Embrace , and it did appear that Sekundus had and organized healer ,(not sure on tank guard) . I say organized because the play style was definitely focused together and the Sorc gody stats,( I am not bias, I played destruction side).
So what are you saying: prohibit good players who queue as a duo (which is allowed btw) so that you can have an even easier experience than you already have?
Didn't know duo was allowed ,my bad!
Easy experience has nothing to do with my posts ,only fairness ! Don't presume ,chill out !

Re: Pug Sc queue

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:38 am
by Theseus
peterthepan3 wrote:
7rere7 wrote:"The appearance of preorganisation worries you? "

Kaines Embrace is intended to be zero preorganized by players and completely random?
From reading the forum and my experience it seems it may purposely already evolving away from that direction !

I was in about 3 times Kaines Embrace , and it did appear that Sekundus had and organized healer ,(not sure on tank guard) . I say organized because the play style was definitely focused together and the Sorc gody stats,( I am not bias, I played destruction side).
So what are you saying: prohibit good players who queue as a duo (which is allowed btw) so that you can have an even easier experience than you already have?
I dont know what he wants to say, but as long as it doesnt get extreme, like 6 man of one guild over 3 or 4 sc clearly working like a premade, and yes there is a visible difference in quality between a premade and 6 random players of the same guild, there is no need. Good player will beat bad player. Its as simple as that. The point of doing a pug SC wasnt making live easy for the bad player, it was meant to give everyone a fighting chance as the advantages of coordinated groups were to great for even that. So I think the devs should punish players, who oviously smuggle their premade in an sc, but not good player, who just play the game to their utmost ability.

Re: Pug Sc queue

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:40 am
by Koensol
Suriael wrote:Yeah it does not work. Playing pug SC this morning, every time same destro people. I find it hardly possible no one else wanted to play scenarios from destro side. On order side, there was nice rotation of people.
Wow, really? So because it was Wednesday morning, and not many people are on at that time, it doesn't work? Where is the logic in that?

Re: Pug Sc queue

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:52 am
by Dalgrimar
whiners will whine.
bads will be bads.

Re: Pug Sc queue

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:37 am
by Dresden
kill Points scaling?

Would it be reality-appropriate to give more points for kills to weaker side who try harder and succeed? i've no idea how that would work but would it not be like the aao/fog stuff in RvR?

Re: Pug Sc queue

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:54 pm
by Ravai
Great idea, from a 6man perspective the scs have been a lot more enjoyable, plenty of premades.

Would like to think most 6mans would share the same approach that the primary aim is to get a decent fight when they are 6, I'd rather roam the lakes and hope to stumble across significant numbers than queue into a pug sc and sit at the spawn for 15 mins. Just wasn't fun, definatly better now

So far so good, thanks!

Re: Pug Sc queue

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:53 pm
by Euan
peterthepan3 wrote:
7rere7 wrote:"The appearance of preorganisation worries you? "

Kaines Embrace is intended to be zero preorganized by players and completely random?
From reading the forum and my experience it seems it may purposely already evolving away from that direction !

I was in about 3 times Kaines Embrace , and it did appear that Sekundus had and organized healer ,(not sure on tank guard) . I say organized because the play style was definitely focused together and the Sorc gody stats,( I am not bias, I played destruction side).
So what are you saying: prohibit good players who queue as a duo (which is allowed btw) so that you can have an even easier experience than you already have?

Easier experience? Last time I checked both Destro and Order fielded equal opposition on Khaine's Embrace. Easier experience would be premades stomping pugs. I really don't get where premades get the idea of easy mode, lol.

Re: Pug Sc queue

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:00 pm
by Dabbart
By reading a complaint thread/post and attempting to apply logic and reason to it...

Oh Boo! The top sorc is melting people... Lol. Go check out this thread. Plenty of videos on Korze/tinker/sekundus smashing fools(even me!

But all trolling aside... It's obvious that player has a truly unfair advantage. It's blatant bias and needs to be fixed. There's no way we can allow someone to be better than the worst PUG in the SC. So I suggest that upon entering a PUG SC, everyone is changed to Chicken. That way it's truly balanced and equal.