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Re: Shaman Discussion, more
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:51 am
by Bozzax
My personal Shammy wish list
Destroy confidence
Change 3 > 2 and/or maybe not damage for all removed enchantments (except first one)
Sticky Feetz
Change debuff to all resistances (or at least 2) which still wouldn't be as funky as the AM ini debuff that affect all attacks
Re: Shaman Discussion, more
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:54 am
by arthur2k
Gobtar wrote:Kurama wrote:Gobtar wrote:you need to make concessions for Shaman/AMs/Zealots where you dont have to as much for RPs/WPs/DoKs.
Why are RPs better than zealots?
They are more survivable; they can cleanse more relevant debuffs (Marauders, SHs, BWs, WEs, Choppas) While the Zealot cannot cleanse their mirrors. SWs, WLs, Slayers, and WHs have extremely potent 'ailements' making the Zealot Dok combo much more stressful than the WP+RP synergy.
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Time to buff or nurf!
Re: Shaman Discussion, more
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:17 am
by Scrilian
Gobtar wrote:
They are more survivable; they can cleanse more relevant debuffs (Marauders, SHs, BWs, WEs, Choppas) While the Zealot cannot cleanse their mirrors. SWs, WLs, Slayers, and WHs have extremely potent 'ailements' making the Zealot Dok combo much more stressful than the WP+RP synergy.
WP can't aoe-cleanse WE/Mara/BOrc debuffs of destro melee cleave, while the DoK can aoe-cleanse Slayer/WH based order melee cleaves.
Re: Shaman Discussion, more
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:04 am
by Sulorie
You are not aware that aoe cleanse does nothing against melee trains, while only rp/zeal have the option to remove multiple debuffs in a short time frame.
Re: Shaman Discussion, more
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:51 am
by Bozzax
KW?
Re: Shaman Discussion, more
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:18 pm
by Sulorie
Bozzax wrote:KW?
Kilowatt? Context?
In the rare case you meant cleansing wind, you are wrong, because renown skills have to be left out in a balancing discussion.
With the same logic you could say AM/SHAM have no issues with Sorc/BW, because everyone can use CW.
Re: Shaman Discussion, more
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:23 pm
by Penril
He meant Khaine's Withdrawal. I think...
Re: Shaman Discussion, more
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:52 pm
by Sulorie
Penril wrote:He meant Khaine's Withdrawal. I think...
How fast you can repeat an attack and debuff lineup, when it is cleansed by moral cleanse on a 1min cooldown?
I never thought that people seriously come with such an argument. Then a single DoK can deal with 2 BW by using Khain's Withdrawl, ok?
Re: Shaman Discussion, more
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:46 pm
by Penril
Sulorie wrote:Penril wrote:He meant Khaine's Withdrawal. I think...
How fast you can repeat an attack and debuff lineup, when it is cleansed by moral cleanse on a 1min cooldown?
I never thought that people seriously come with such an argument. Then a single DoK can deal with 2 BW by using Khain's Withdrawl, ok?
Don't look at me... not my argument
Re: Shaman Discussion, more
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:17 am
by DirkDaring
Would be nice to get getting smarter back , like it was at launch where it buffed your intelligence