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Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:38 pm
by RyanMakara
Renork wrote:Anyway, whatever Azarael and team does in regards to this issue will determine where this server is headed. IMO ALL skills that are not working as intended should be fixed, and there should not be any cherry picking going on here.
Renork, for the 50th time, it's not about the skills 'not working'. They simply aren't working as intended due to a lack of LOS. We've been over this in T2 already, and the balance was actually restored when LOS worked in Empire.

There is no fixing due for abilities, only ways to ensure they can't be abused by a lack of LOS.

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:41 pm
by RyanMakara
Nanji wrote:And this "If you die before the door goes down in a keep you should l2p, yes."
is protection of exploiters. As Aza mentioned it before.

How about stop defending an exploit which was already called an exploit before the ability even was available? :)
Nope, I'm stating a way to deal with an exploit as long as it isn't being fixed, and if you can't deal w/ that, you need to learn to play around the exploit.

Me and my guild considered the pouncing on top of the keep walls an exploit. Our Sorcs kept getting hammered so what did we do? We lured them with one Sorc that was guarded, while the rest of the DPS was ready to CC the bastard to oblivion. You adjust your playstyle according to the gimmicks used by your enemy in order to use it against them.

If nobody stands too close to the door during a keep defense, nobody dies and nobody gets rifted through. Simple, isn't it?
It's L2P in a private server metagame.

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:42 pm
by Renork
RyanMakara wrote:
Nanji wrote:And this "If you die before the door goes down in a keep you should l2p, yes."
is protection of exploiters. As Aza mentioned it before.

How about stop defending an exploit which was already called an exploit before the ability even was available? :)
Nope, I'm stating a way to deal with an exploit as long as it isn't being fixed, and if you can't deal w/ that, you need to learn to play around the exploit.

Me and my guild considered the pouncing on top of the keep walls an exploit. Our Sorcs kept getting hammered so what did we do? We lured them with one Sorc that was guarded, while the rest of the DPS was ready to CC the bastard to oblivion. You adjust your playstyle according to the gimmicks used by your enemy in order to use it against them.

If nobody stands too close to the door during a keep defense, nobody dies and nobody gets rifted through. Simple, isn't it?
It's L2P in a private server metagame.
Wait what? What kind of idiotic logic is this. I sure hope this is not your way of thinking in your every day life.

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:44 pm
by Bozzax
Guys ... seriously Pounce on keep walls is such a minor problem

The real problems with a 0s CD on pounce are:

- constant threat on dest cloth backlines
- WLs being immune to all CC
- assisting instantly within 65feet
- escaping death by jumping out of dest melee train

Also there is no risk just like charge you don't go heedlessly into enemy WBs

Pounce doesn't work like on live especially now when it never misfire

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:44 pm
by Luth
Euan wrote:
Azarael wrote:Frankly, I'd love to see a Pounce mirror. How about turning GTTC into a rolling Pounce?
How about on the Marauder? You could throw it on monstrosity spec so its more viable.
Nice try. :roll:

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:49 pm
by Euan
Luth wrote:
Euan wrote:
Azarael wrote:Frankly, I'd love to see a Pounce mirror. How about turning GTTC into a rolling Pounce?
How about on the Marauder? You could throw it on monstrosity spec so its more viable.
Nice try. :roll:
Marauder/WL share many of the same abilities, why not pounce? Oh, order bias.

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:51 pm
by Morf
I think it would be best if rift and magnet were either removed for time being or range heavily reduced for the time being until los issues with them can be fixed.
Also i think its amusing that certain ppl like to complain about things when it suits them and ignore other factors that can be seen as ridiculous/lame.

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:53 pm
by tomato
What other factors are as ridiculous/lame as pulling ppl though keepdoors?

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:54 pm
by Renork
Morf wrote:I think it would be best if rift and magnet were either removed for time being or range heavily reduced for the time being until los issues with them can be fixed.
Also i think its amusing that certain ppl like to complain about things when it suits them and ignore other factors that can be seen as ridiculous/lame.



^ I concur.

Re: Will rifters get punished?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:56 pm
by Nanji
Morf wrote: Also i think its amusing that certain ppl like to complain about things when it suits them and ignore other factors that can be seen as ridiculous/lame.
I would like to know who, dont forget to mention yourself, and I would like to know more about the other lame factors.
Amusement for everyone. :)