Return of Reckoning

Its the same choice a dps healer has to make. Want to be an effective archetype. Gear and play to that. Want to be a hybrid or dps and you will be dead weight. Join the club.

DanielWinner wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:20 pmSo 2h-s are no longer tanks now (which they were) but they still can't perform dps or even bruiser roles too. It would be much better if that restriction was moved to Focused Offense tactic so any player, that wanted to dps, could pick it and had less tank utility but better offensive capabilities and other players, who wanted to play 2h as a defensive/utility tanks, could continue to play as they played before. Though current change just kinda ruined experience of a good portion of tanks on the server and didn't give them any other good alternatives.

Well said.

So 2h-s are no longer tanks now (which they were) but they still can't perform dps or even bruiser roles too. It would be much better if that restriction was moved to Focused Offense tactic so any player, that wanted to dps, could pick it and had less tank utility but better offensive capabilities and other players, who wanted to play 2h as a defensive/utility tanks, could continue to play as they played before. Though current change just kinda ruined experience of a good portion of tanks on the server and didn't give them any other good alternatives.

nothing to add

Telen wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:27 pm Its the same choice a dps healer has to make. Want to be an effective archetype. Gear and play to that. Want to be a hybrid or dps and you will be dead weight. Join the club.

you can still be a defensive tank with a 2h, some abilities simply require you to use 2h

rmpl wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:33 pm you can still be a defensive tank with a 2h, some abilities simply require you to use 2h

You can still use utility abilities as alt specs. You cannot do your main archetype roll at full effectiveness. As it should be.

The guard nerf is really dumb considering they've done nothing but nerf SnB tank builds (-the SM build. That's been buffed to healing heaven.) Why not make running Focused Offense do this and leave guard alone.

PS: My 2hander BO is not a dps. He's a tank.

The developers said: "the tank should not cause as much damage as the dps class, because even offense tank is able to guard." Ok, you've taken away the guard from 2h tanks, so where is dps of my chosen and knight? I do not see any changes in this regard.

Telen wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:35 pm

rmpl wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:33 pm you can still be a defensive tank with a 2h, some abilities simply require you to use 2h

You can still use utility abilities as alt specs. You cannot do your main archetype roll at full effectiveness. As it should be.

I play 2handed chosen.
I test new changes and swap snb.
I feel like I lost half my power as a tank. Yes tank. Some say that 2h is not a tank as you can see they have no idea about this game.
Use QE, tactics with speed buff after disrupt and jaggernaut tactic, I feel like a snail on the battlefield without 2h subj speed buff. 20 sec cd on super punt change a lot. I feel useless at times.
Btw always played completely in defensive equipment and def mastery / renown / tact. Where always the priority was guard / cc / support. I know that many 2h tanks play completely off but that's their business as well as useless dpses in def builds like monstro maras or super glass cannons choppas dying in 2 sec. This is their problem.
I recommend returning to the guard as before.
I want to play as an active tank not like HTL spammer.
In this game we have dps / healers / tank (mostly 2handed) and HTL spammers (which I would not even call as tanks).

Telen wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:27 pm Its the same choice a dps healer has to make. Want to be an effective archetype. Gear and play to that. Want to be a hybrid or dps and you will be dead weight. Join the club.

yes but that should not matter regarding the weapon you use, i can build a tank def but using 2h and i have alredy a trade out im def but i loose hold the line for soemthing else, but my guard priority remain the same be a tank.

looking at healer problem

-heal bsed on dmg have a bad way to be calculated
-dps mastery are just bad and nto in line with pure dps
-if spec off you use off tactic if spec heal you use heal tactic

so why a bg spec def cant use 2h?

i can spec even off while in s+b, nothing prevent me to run full str, full melee crit and **** chance to be crit... does that unlock me out of guard with this change? No....

2h is not = dmg
s+b is not = def