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Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:00 pm
by Renork
Penril wrote:Renork wrote:
Edit: dumb people posting about t1/t2 experiences are dumb.
Why? Currently we only have those 2 tiers, and it has been like that for 1+ year. We dont know when T3 is coming (and T4 might take 1 or 2 years from now). It only makes sense to talk about current experiences and tiers.
dumb people posting about t4 are dumb. Same as people who still put their rr100s names in their signatures.
You calling anyone dumb is highly offensive. You can't predict how good a class is based on t1/t2 experience, magi get stronger endgame with rr's and gear...but guess what? so does
everyone else. Magi aren't going to get any stronger once t3 is released here, there's no lotd, and they're missing essential tactics.
Edit: Besides that, this isn't a pounce whine/discussion thread. So, allow me to point you to the search button up top and type in pounce, this way you can continue to talk about your lolt1t2 experiences against wl's.
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:05 pm
by Penril
Renork wrote:
You calling anyone dumb is highly offensive. You can't predict how good a class is based on t1/t2 experience, magi get stronger endgame with rr's and gear...but guess what? so does everyone else. Magi aren't going to get any stronger once t3 is released here, there's no lotd, and they're missing essential tactics.
You can predict how good a class will be, based on past experiences on live. Many people here can predict how ALL classes will be in T4, assuming nothing is changed (which is apparently the mantra around here, "dont change anything until T4").
Magus will be really strong in T3, and just meh in T4. Just like it was on live. Expecting different results from live, when nothing has been changed here, is extremely dumb.
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:07 pm
by Renork
Penril wrote:Renork wrote:
You calling anyone dumb is highly offensive. You can't predict how good a class is based on t1/t2 experience, magi get stronger endgame with rr's and gear...but guess what? so does everyone else. Magi aren't going to get any stronger once t3 is released here, there's no lotd, and they're missing essential tactics.
You can predict how good a class will be, based on past experiences on live. Many people here can predict how ALL classes will be in T4, assuming nothing is changed (which is apparently the mantra around here, "dont change anything until T4").
Magus will be really strong in T3, and just meh in T4. Just like it was on live. Expecting different results from live, when nothing has been changed here, is extremely dumb.
We will see how "strong" they get

I just hope to see you show everyone strong they are. BONUS if you don't whine about Order bias while you do it.
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:12 pm
by Penril
Renork wrote:
We will see how "strong" they get

I just hope to see you show everyone strong they are. BONUS if you don't whine about Order bias while you do it.
Sorry to dissapoint you, but i wont level a class to 31-39 or whatever the hell T3 lvl cap will be, when i am fully aware that class will be "meh" in T4, just because some random fool asks me to. I have nothing to prove to someone like you, lol

Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:26 pm
by zanthorn
https://youtu.be/Qr1h9vZwTss
According to the above video DOT SPEC seams to work just fine in t4. When playing the role of area denial as the class was intended.
waronlinebuilder.org - Magus build
The above is how I would spec it.
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:36 pm
by Renork
I thought your previous post was your last post? STOP LYING.
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:49 pm
by Abolition
Strange. I thought you weren't posting in this thread again.
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:50 pm
by Luth
zanthorn wrote:
According to the above video DOT SPEC seams to work just fine in t4. When playing the role of area denial as the class was intended.
I smell bugged LotD weapon.
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:07 pm
by SpikyBitz
Renork wrote:You can't predict how good a class is based on t1/t2 experience
No, but you CAN hate the class "as is", given that is all that we have had to actually play for a while. T1 at least is more than enough for the class to generate discontent in how it plays, rather than how it will play. Such discontent is, ofc, the focus of the OP's query.
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:05 am
by Sulorie
Do you want me to explain the video for you?
1. One healer on order side, the other RP tried to do crappy damage.
2. Only healers who can't cleanse HEX, a WP with grp cleanse could take out a lot dots. Double WP would be a hard counter in this situation for your team.
3. No tank an order side. They would burst him down, if he had none as well, even the 3 healers wouldn't help.
4. No resist buffs used by order. Only a few start with resist buff, as the fight continues it isn't re-applied.
5. Their melees charge in one by one, too timid to attack and focus on one target.
Premades can win against pugs, this is all we can learn from this video.
