Return of Reckoning

Slowbro wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 6:56 pm If tanks are now DPS and healers are DPS what's the point of even playing a DPS class? You guys just want the good stuff without the bad stuff . Typical wow players.

DPS will still be a better damage dealer,.. It has its own set of abilities. Morale abilities that complement the burst it can deal. You usually have some movement kit at your disposal and can pick between AoEing and ST. While one spec on tank that allows you to close some of that gap seems like too much?

Honestly, I am okay with neither healer nor tank being able to deal damage but then make those different builds make sense somehow. I don't understand that while one can be versatile in all groups and multiple roles with various play styles while the other gets *check notes* one build that is correct .. and don't be confused when nobody plays said class because the can't have any "fun" on time to time occasion..

Maybe we misunderstand each other though..

I am advocating for two different things.
1/ Make the 2h Tank builds somehow useful (Pick your poison here) <-- And I am talking about all 2h tanks builds actually. If we don't want them to deal damage, they need to offer something else.
2/ Buff BG in some aspect so it has some edge at least in single direction over other Destro tanks because currently it's simply the "wrong pick" (If he had better survivability or better damage while speccing 2h, so be it. he was still the "worst SnB tank") after stat reworks and skill adjustments it's simply not good.

Slowbro wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 6:56 pm If tanks are now DPS and healers are DPS what's the point of even playing a DPS class? You guys just want the good stuff without the bad stuff . Typical wow players.

I don't get this perspective. The point of playing a DPS class is to fulfill a DPS role in a group, just like it is now and just like it has always been and always will be. No one is ever going to be looking for a tank as a DPS spot in a group because guess what, even the most DPS-y of tanks isn't close to a real DPS class. Tanks getting more DPS is not even a remote threat to that.

Hellfireuzu wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 7:34 pm
Honestly, I am okay with neither healer nor tank being able to deal damage but then make those different builds make sense somehow.

I'd be ok with that too but the devs of the original game and the devs of this game have chosen to not go that way. It's too bad really because as a healer enjoyer the variety of heals is distinctly lacking. For example, every single RP mastery ability is either DPS oriented or neutral. Such a waste.

I would definitely prefer that the BG receive some additional utility abilities that affect the entire group or a single member, rather than damage. The BG is the only tank on which I use “Rugged” because there aren't any other good utility tactics. Most of them are only for the BG's own survivability.

Alubert wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2026 7:16 am I would definitely prefer that the BG receive some additional utility abilities that affect the entire group or a single member, rather than damage. The BG is the only tank on which I use “Rugged” because there aren't any other good utility tactics. Most of them are only for the BG's own survivability.

I'm surprised that people are asking for more utility. The BG has a ton of utility. They have the strongest kd in the game with 5s. They have mega punt, they can have 5s cool down reduction for the group, they can have 50% block shield channel, they can have 25% block or disrupt with only one tactic at full hate, they have self absorbs, they can have a 45% (percent!) tough buff for 20s, they have armor and other debuffs as well, aoe root, they have one of the best M1 to self heal and lots of other good stuff. What else do you want? Sounds like a hell of a toolkit.

Bottom line: They can be build ultra defensive. If you give them more damage it would be broken op.