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Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:14 pm
by Everdin
Evilspinnre wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:24 pm
Why are people still discussing solo ranked stats? They should never be used as a basis for balance.
because it fits their filterbubble, same people would cry out if the stats were different and someone else would use it.
Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:46 pm
by Uchoo
I can see why the population imbalance can be concerning but I've never considered it an issue because a skilled and coordinated wb can easily provide enough contest for a large, uncoordinated zerg. The people who typically do this will xrealm to the weaker side and create a fight for the opposition. The fight can go either way but this ultimately ends in a Fort, which is population capped, and a coordinated defense warband in a fort has an incredibly strong chance of beating uncoordinated opposition.
If you do 24 hour lockouts, it will limit these peoples' ability to xrealm in an attempt to balance RvR, effectively making your problem worse.
Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:32 pm
by Meliannia
Uchoo wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:46 pm
The people who typically do this will xrealm to the weaker side and create a fight for the opposition.
we know this, we know this is how xrealming was how it was meant to be. This whole thread is because this is not how it being done, it's being daily abused by a hardcore minority, a minority controlling 20 to 40 followers.
we are talking a hardcore minority of 2 or 3 who drag 20 to 40 subservient followers like hypnotized cultists to the strongest side to make it even worse for the weaker side and also annoy the hell out of the stronger side too. This has to end.
Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:57 pm
by erifro25
It was funny the first two times these threads came up about xrealmers, now its just stupid.
Just stop.
if they remove xrealming you are still going to get farmed btw.
Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:43 pm
by wonshot
Meliannia wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:32 pm
Uchoo wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:46 pm
The people who typically do this will xrealm to the weaker side and create a fight for the opposition.
we know this, we know this is how xrealming was how it was meant to be. This whole thread is because this is not how it being done, it's being daily abused by a hardcore minority, a minority controlling 20 to 40 followers.
we are talking a hardcore minority of 2 or 3 who drag 20 to 40 subservient followers like hypnotized cultists to the strongest side to make it even worse for the weaker side and also annoy the hell out of the stronger side too. This has to end.
But this is not really accurate is it?
The warbands in EU prime atleast who are playing on the underdog realm by the time they are build, have been Rowan or Evil from what ive seen. And if we are taking just the last week of primetime into account, ive seen these builders build on the side with the fewest organized warbands.
If we look at NA hours, then Dansari have been building on the least populated side aswel while order have been on their gravy train chain locking zones between 03 and 06 in EU mornings servertime.
I could be missinformed or not see the full picture from the outside, but thats how ive seen it. The builders who have acces to a following on both realms, have actually been mostly building on the side who needed reinforcements in population and organisationviced outnumbered by the time of creating and building the warbands.
EU mornings/noon/early afternoon has been heavy destro dominated as they love their T2-T3 zonelocks I am fully agreeing with that though. Right after order have usually besieged IC unless altdorf has been 5star and order mains log on destro to secure that 5star city once a week

Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:44 pm
by Evilspinnre
Meliannia wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:32 pm
we know this, we know this is how xrealming was how it was meant to be. This whole thread is because this is not how it being done, it's being daily abused by a hardcore minority, a minority controlling 20 to 40 followers.
we are talking a hardcore minority of 2 or 3 who drag 20 to 40 subservient followers like hypnotized cultists to the strongest side to make it even worse for the weaker side and also annoy the hell out of the stronger side too. This has to end.
Do you mean my WB that swaps to the side that is outnumbered and losing? Not sure who you're referring to otherwise.
Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:47 am
by Meliannia
erifro25 wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:57 pm
It was funny the first two times these threads came up about xrealmers, now its just stupid.
stupid enough it would seem for The Powers That Be to devote time to a survey for all the players to share their thoughts on it.
Funny that,,,,,
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Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:42 am
by Uchoo
Meliannia wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:32 pm
Uchoo wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:46 pm
The people who typically do this will xrealm to the weaker side and create a fight for the opposition.
we know this, we know this is how xrealming was how it was meant to be. This whole thread is because this is not how it being done, it's being daily abused by a hardcore minority, a minority controlling 20 to 40 followers.
we are talking a hardcore minority of 2 or 3 who drag 20 to 40 subservient followers like hypnotized cultists to the strongest side to make it even worse for the weaker side and also annoy the hell out of the stronger side too. This has to end.
Even if you are right, which is weird to me because 20 to 40 shouldn't be hard to deal with, you want to make the server worse for every single player with a 24 hour lockout to fix it?
Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:38 am
by Xirucio
Uchoo wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:42 am
Meliannia wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:32 pm
Uchoo wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:46 pm
The people who typically do this will xrealm to the weaker side and create a fight for the opposition.
we know this, we know this is how xrealming was how it was meant to be. This whole thread is because this is not how it being done, it's being daily abused by a hardcore minority, a minority controlling 20 to 40 followers.
we are talking a hardcore minority of 2 or 3 who drag 20 to 40 subservient followers like hypnotized cultists to the strongest side to make it even worse for the weaker side and also annoy the hell out of the stronger side too. This has to end.
Even if you are right, which is weird to me because 20 to 40 shouldn't be hard to deal with, you want to make the server worse for every single player with a 24 hour lockout to fix it?
One faction/side per game it's the main rule of any game since ancient times
By asking for an option to change the faction at will, it's like not respecting the rules or one implies that the rules should not exist in the first place. It's like asking a referee that you, a soccer player, you want to play in both teams at the same time.
Without rules, there is no game to be played.
Also, X-realming cuts from the game's immersion, everyone is everyone, why even play against Destro since Destro are Order players and vice-versa?
Trust me, this option does not exist in any other official game because it's flawed and illogical in the first place.
Re: Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:51 am
by Evilspinnre
So tonight when order had 80% aao in Caledor without my destro WB even there, and we swapped to order to bring it down to 20% and make it an even fight - you'd rather we have stayed on destro and just zerged down the zone as more and more order log off due to having zero chance?