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Re: Changelog 20/02
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:24 pm
by Soulcheg
Tesq wrote:Soulcheg wrote:And why this behaviour is bad, Tesq?
are joke right?
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Do you understand that almost every MMO lets people to buff other players? There's even Newbie Helpers with free buffs in many MMORPG, so i don't understand why you bring up bw and slayers, but suddenly forgetting about choppas and sorcs. Twoface much?
Re: Changelog 20/02
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:27 pm
by Tiggo
Soulcheg wrote:Tesq wrote:Soulcheg wrote:And why this behaviour is bad, Tesq?
are joke right?
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Do you understand that almost every MMO lets people to buff other players? There's even Newbie Helpers with free buffs in many MMORPG, so i don't understand why you bring up bw and slayers, but suddenly forgetting about choppas and sorcs. Twoface much?
for me its a qol issue, i dont think it has any influence on the game (well its favoring premades again actually, because pugs are not buff friendly and often i have like 5 scenarios where noone buffs).
Re: Changelog 20/02
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:37 pm
by TenTonHammer
Soulcheg wrote:Tesq wrote:Soulcheg wrote:And why this behaviour is bad, Tesq?
are joke right?
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Do you understand that almost every MMO lets people to buff other players? There's even Newbie Helpers with free buffs in many MMORPG, so i don't understand why you bring up bw and slayers, but suddenly forgetting about choppas and sorcs. Twoface much?
To be fair choppas cant proc sorc buffs like the way slayers can with ID
Re: Changelog 20/02
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:44 pm
by Tesq
Soulcheg wrote:Tesq wrote:Soulcheg wrote:And why this behaviour is bad, Tesq?
are joke right?
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Do you understand that almost every MMO lets people to buff other players? There's even Newbie Helpers with free buffs in many MMORPG, so i don't understand why you bring up bw and slayers, but suddenly forgetting about choppas and sorcs. Twoface much?
not every mmo is a rvr game which mean having something free and additional = great advantage.
it's an exploit, it needed to be fix not defended.
Re: Changelog 20/02
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:08 pm
by mursie
I do not remember the buff from RP and ZEO ever falling off if you left group. But - I also don't remember knight/chosen auras not needing twister which has apparently changed.
If this new system (where buffs fall off if the buffing member leaves group) is intended, then can we remove the "timer" on the buff and just make it on or off dependent on whether the member casting it is in group? Basically - you have to cast the buff but once on it is on so long as you stay in group or do not change the buff to another.
Re: Changelog 20/02
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:12 pm
by Nameless
buff went off when you die, so the need to reapply. The group changes didnt effect already casted buffs but since they got removed upon death many ppl didnt bothered to change groups only to rebuff, esp when most buffs are quite alike /shammy, am with kotbs/chosen resist aura for example/
Re: Changelog 20/02
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:15 pm
by Tesq
don' get this why someone even feel the need to not fix that, it not make such classes badder or less efficent, it just fix an advantage groups can have by log an alt.
make it easier for you to understand --->can you buff ppl out of party??--> no , so why does ppl should be able to get an advantage over other ppl by log an alt get a free buff then relog 1 healer and have 1 or more free buff and then discard that class back into log screen??
That's something not suppose to happen and is cleary a form of exploiting a fall in the system.
Re: Changelog 20/02
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:28 pm
by Soulcheg
Can you stop doomsaying, Tesq? You can get only sorc/bw buffs for additional damage of 50-200. AM's resists? Kotbs/Chosen resist's aura cover this. Str buff for RP? Kotb's/Chosen aura cover this.
So, bw/sorcs buffs are so game breaking, so you are in quite panic?
Re: Changelog 20/02
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:33 pm
by Nameless
i am just explaining how it was on live.
It doesnt really matter how is here since the buff game is pretty broken since you got on each side 1 tank that cover most buffs and make obsolete rest buffs
Re: Changelog 20/02
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:58 pm
by Soulcheg
Well, you can buff AM's resists, RP int/str and KotBS can spin another 3 auras
