While I do agree that the base UI is not enough to play the game on a decent level, I do think this is not a Developer issue and the responsibility should not be shifted upon them this time. Take World of Warcraft as an example, it is another MMO that requires tons of external tools or addons to play properly but that game does not have the issue of its players refusing to do so, or at least it's generally more accepted there that you do need them.Culexus wrote: Sun Aug 31, 2025 11:38 am The unusable base UI is a big factor to the lack of player skill that hasn't been brought up yet, and one I'd argue could do more from a dev standpoint to improve player skill than even fixing scenarios. New players being expected to know about, find, download, and configure UI addons for a game they have only just started is totally ridiculous, and many will never cross that barrier to entry. It's simply not possible to play this game (especially for tanks) without some base addons. The in-game knowledge that things like guardpack, buffhead, enemy, etc., passively provide cannot be underestimated in a player's ability to play their class. How many more DPS would assist if the /setassist /assist macros were placed on the player bar at level 1 just as guard and rez are now?
I know the devs don't want to incorporate UI addons into the base game as no one wants the responsibility of maintaining it, but if the team is willing to maintain every other aspect of the game, why leave something as important as UI out of that? Isn't UI just as much a part of the game as anything else?
Though the website on the other hand is HEAVILY neglected and not developed - where they could easily highlight community created guides, videos and the countless resources that help players get into the game - but for some reason this is not priority, despite the incredibly low amount of effort and hours it requires to do this. The RoR Team has a history of only promoting what they work on - and ignore what their community contributes to the server.
Scenarios have degraded player skill level over the years as OP has said but more importantly that is not being said and stressed enough here - it has also degraded player mentality and perception on the server. It is more and more acceptable to ignore your career's mechanics, to play incorrect specs in incorrect gamemodes, to not research fundamental mechanics, to not use Morales, Guard, players giving incredibly bad tips in /advice chat and so on and so forth... climaxing with the "Just Blob up" solution. Then you don't have to learn anything.
Setting up addons, which are available to everyone and we have dozens of guides how to do them - is a player responsibility, and that standard should be upheld by the community, just like a lot of other things should be upheld - but instead the majority at the moment is leaning more into the so called "toxic casual" mindset of encouraging people to play worse and worse, and applaud it very loudly, instead of pushing people to at least play on a basic level that the game asks you to.
No, not the Elitist players asking you to - a gameplay level the GAME ITSELF, as Mythic made it, expecting you to perform on.
So yes overall, this topic is pretty important and it's far more than just SCs or RvR Balance as it is affecting the general player mentality that takes years to shift to a different direction.
