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Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:58 pm
by Naelar
emiliorv wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:20 pm
teiloh wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:31 pm Image

58-94 damage ticks

Totally "15-20% of damage depending on gear, ranks, tactics etc"
Well really maths look hard for you...
56 dmg tick on a 280 FB hit its +20%
56 dmg tick on a 514 FB hit (crit) its +10.8%
92 dmg tick (crit) on a 280 FB hit +32.8%
92 dmg tick (crit) on a 514 FB hit (crit) its +17.8%

So funnel power adds +10-11% at minimun and 32-33% at max => well not look bad
Hey, now. Stop with your 'math' and 'logic'. You're messing up the permanent AAO he has on all his toons. He needs it to fight Destro, which is totally OP in all aspects.

Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:58 pm
by Ramlaen
Naelar wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:58 pmHey, now. Stop with your 'math' and 'logic'. You're messing up the permanent AAO he has on all his toons. He needs it to fight Destro, which is totally OP in all aspects.
Destro typically has perma AAO during NA primetime.

Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:51 pm
by teiloh
emiliorv wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:03 am
teiloh wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:25 pm
emiliorv wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:06 am

FBB is the spell showed in the SS that you posted, and its the spell wich triggered that funnel power ticks => so that numbers are correct looking at that SS.

Shades of death its a ST spell, its trash compared to funnel power (and still its a 13point skill and funnel power 5pt...) and never ever will boost the dmg of IW by 50%...
Fire Breath, a DoT is a huge part of BW damage, as are various proccing tactics and Flames of Rhuin, none of which trigger Funnel Power.
First you came here posting a SS to show the "***** dmg from Funnel power" but after the maths done over that SS show that you are wrong you came with another pile of BS....what % of your dps (as BW) came from fire breath in a fort defense Mr numbers?? or in a keep defense? The only numbers you bring here show that funnel power adds between +11% to +33% to DD dmg.
I'm not the one who pegged Funnel Power for a 15-20% damage boost. That would be you.

Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:53 pm
by teiloh
Naelar wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:58 pm Hey, now. Stop with your 'math' and 'logic'. You're messing up the permanent AAO he has on all his toons. He needs it to fight Destro, which is totally OP in all aspects.
Please explain how and why you believe

1. Funnel Power scales with the damage of its proccing attack
2. FBB splash is 100% of Bright Wizard damage

Then you will be able to explain your initial claim that Funnel Power is a flat 10-20% DPS boost for Bright Wizards. I'll quote you:

Well, there is Funnel Power, which is (depending on the target's resists, gear, etc) a 10-20% damage buff. On everything a BW does....
Tell me more about how a sorc can compete with that. I'll wait.

Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:45 pm
by Kaeldrick
Spellbound wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:12 pm
Ramlaen wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:54 pm
Elvicof wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:30 pm

Should probably be looked into, but there are plenty of other things. Like a passive wounds buff just by being grped with a wp
More one way mirroring.
Yes, Destro on the server just want more one way mirroring without realizing they got most Order abilities mirrored, yet Order has less Destro abilities. You don't see Windblock, Winds of Insanity, Mara AoE Knockdown, GTDC, Shaman auto-detaunt, etc., being requested. Just same abilities, but being put on instant cast for SM like BO with tactic. This isn't the crowd I know to explain things to on forums, why I don't post here much.
Hi!
Just to be more accurate : Black Orc's WAAAAAAAGH! skill is a Best Plan skill so it's not really "on demand" but you can stance dance to prepare it, like SM can do. The only difference with SM's WW is that WAAAAAAAGH! buff always applies. I'm ok with giving SM a similar behaviour and buff should apply even if hit from WW has been avoided.

Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:46 pm
by jonyjones
ppl speak but always not the whole thing, would be too long, and its aimed, because not having strafing run is trivial? fortunately phosphorous shell gone channeled, elsewhere i would play engee XD

Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:16 pm
by sharpblader
jonyjones wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:46 pm ppl speak but always not the whole thing, would be too long, and its aimed, because not having strafing run is trivial? fortunately phosphorous shell gone channeled, elsewhere i would play engee XD
Internet Explorer is that you? :)