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Re: Forum Order consensus vs reality. Why is that?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:27 pm
by bloodi
Anecdotal evidence is the best evidence.

Re: Forum Order consensus vs reality. Why is that?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:28 pm
by th3gatekeeper
Ive tried to read up on RR80 builds/balance as well as look at the trees myself and it APPEARS to me that generally speaking:

Destro classes are built more "solo-oriented" where it doesnt require as much teamwork to play

where as

Order classes are built more "team-oriented" where stuff isnt really all that great unless you pair it with X, then its overpowered.

Which is why (again my experience) it seems that PUG vs PUG - Destro wins.
PM vs PM - Order wins.

Just generically speaking though, and by "PM" I mean full comps. When you have a 6 man team + 6 pugs versus 6 man team + 6 pugs it SEEMS like Destro has the advantage.

I could easily be mistaken, but thats just what I have noticed.

So much so that I have rolled a Chosen and am only ~ lvl 12 but out of the 15+ matches I have played (all solo Q) I have won 14... Which doesnt make much sense to me, but its what happened.

Could it have been "luck" sure... Maybe some tier 1 PM was running the same time I decided to play, but it was over the course of a few days....

Re: Forum Order consensus vs reality. Why is that?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:31 pm
by mursie
th3gatekeeper wrote: So much so that I have rolled a Chosen and am only ~ lvl 12 but out of the 15+ matches I have played (all solo Q) I have won 14... Which doesnt make much sense to me, but its what happened.

Could it have been "luck" sure... Maybe some tier 1 PM was running the same time I decided to play, but it was over the course of a few days....
I'd say this is pretty conclusive. Based on this - I think nerfs for destro are definitely warranted.

Re: Forum Order consensus vs reality. Why is that?

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:18 am
by MrESkull
GodlessCrom wrote:Also, Chosen is clearly the most popular tank on Destro. No idea when you're playing where you see so many Black Guards. Ive been in scenarios where half the destro team is Chosen. And for some reason, outside of t1, I never see any marauders unless I'm in a premade. It's like they all get to level 13 and stop playing.
I'm assuming this is aimed at my post.

I'm Aussie and I play when I can. And I speak no hyperbole, no sarcasm, when I say that honestly I see more BGs than any other tank.

Re: Forum Order consensus vs reality. Why is that?

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 2:43 am
by Annaise16
mursie wrote:
th3gatekeeper wrote: So much so that I have rolled a Chosen and am only ~ lvl 12 but out of the 15+ matches I have played (all solo Q) I have won 14... Which doesnt make much sense to me, but its what happened.

Could it have been "luck" sure... Maybe some tier 1 PM was running the same time I decided to play, but it was over the course of a few days....
I'd say this is pretty conclusive. Based on this - I think nerfs for destro are definitely warranted.
Totally disagree. These old DK ss clearly show that WH >>>> WE. Nerf Order.

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Re: Forum Order consensus vs reality. Why is that?

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 3:56 am
by Dreadspectre
Played about 6 matches today, each game had 2-3 slayers and 2-3 SM in them.

I say again, I see no shortage of MDPS/Tanks for Order, at least in MY games.

Perhaps it's the curse of playing on my Zealot to constantly be hounded by anklebiters.