[Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

[Gobtar]

You got nuffin was the anti-detaunt tactic. The reason why it is there now is because that's where it' mirror is on the SM. It's absolute garbage. I am not a huge fan of Hots not healing for the first tic immediately but I understand the reasoning behind it. (Same with Dots). Da Toughest also got nerfed from being stupid good to mediocre. When Az goes on his glorious crusade to balance all the tactics we might see this lack-luster tactic be buffed or completely changed.

[Vdova]

IMO You got nuffin is in the wrong tree. With the way Da Toughest works now you get the full run of YGN without it refreshing on itself. With any other bellow it can refresh itself over and over and you could end up missing out on heal ticks.

Maybe significaly buff You got nuffin from 270health over 10seconds to something like 400 over 5 seconds or 300 over 3 seconds as base value(before point in tree spent) will make this tactic more viable and attractive to use it since Da Toughest was nerfed the way it is.

[Ekundu01]

IMO You got nuffin is in the wrong tree. With the way Da Toughest works now you get the full run of YGN without it refreshing on itself. With any other bellow it can refresh itself over and over and you could end up missing out on heal ticks.

Maybe significaly buff You got nuffin from 270health over 10seconds to something like 400 over 5 seconds or 300 over 3 seconds as base value(before point in tree spent) will make this tactic more viable and attractive to use it since Da Toughest was nerfed the way it is.

Even buffing it wouldn't really change much since you would have to run a bellow that is not in the same tree to get the best usage out of it. If you use the bellow in the tree it is in you can end up getting a string of procs that would just refresh it and get no ticks from it.

Even if they just changed it to heal the first tick as soon as it procs would make this a much better tactic and would actually make it a decent tactic for the tree it is in. Or they could a CD on it of 10secs so no matter what bellow you use it won't over write itself and miss out on ticks.

I used it in T2 for a little while with Da Toughest bellow on and average total healed per SC was usually in the 10k range, using just Da Toughest would range from 1.8k - 3k so it was giving about 7k-8k extra heals out on my group over a long SC. Did it change the tide of a battle probably not. At most it was mitigating like half a dot per person.

[roadkillrobin]

You got nuffin didn't refresh itself on live, even tho it was crapp it worked as intened.
This isn't the only tactic that are bugged like this. Pretty much all tactics procs with a timer does this.
But it ends up being really bad with this one and Bolstering Enchantments as it takes 3 seconds before the tactic even does something. The fix would ofc to add an internal CD on it that last 9 seconds.

[footpatrol2]

I'd rather see You got nuffin as a anti-detaunt tactic again. I don't like the mirror pushing that mythic did.

[roadkillrobin]

Well it's one of those tactic that noone uses and probobly gonna be up for ballance change when t4 opens.

[Ekundu01]

I would rather see you got nuffin to actually live up to the name, make it give Da Greenest a bonus 25% to the buffed stats. Or even give a toughness bonus to the group. Or even change the heal to a shielding effect (with a proc limit of course).

[peterthepan3]

Bo shouldn't have an anti detaunt; would be incredibly OP in the right hands for a dps bo.

[roadkillrobin]

They had the detaunt dispell tactic for a very long time and noone used it.
People don't detaunt tanks in general they detaunt the dps close to them.
Also people don't really like tactics that only have have use every 15 sec or so when you can use a tactic that have 100% uptime.

[footpatrol2]

So...

Something I've been toying around with the idea and it might be 100% not worth it is...

Switching bellows while in combat.

So sometimes your not always in the thick of it and your kinda just facing off. So if facing off just switch to da Greenest bellow. Its instant cast. Your likely to get the large armor buff for the grp. Ya it sucks that its a large ap drain but could allow you to live. If ya got no serious pressure in the thick of it switch too stat steal. Its still stealing like 66 stats across the board with nothing spec'd into it.

Are people already doing this and I'm a scrub or is it straight just not worth it to dance in and out. This is also a unique advantage that BO's have because SM's blade enchants are based on them swinging where da greenest is full reactionary.