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Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:43 pm
by Nameless
Penril wrote:
Gobtar wrote:Shamans and Archmages will always the least favoured healer as long as they are unable to cleanse BW/Sorcs.
Patch wounds should be changed so it cleanses Curse and Ailment.
And Greener n' Cleaner should be changed to cleanse Ailment and Hex.

So now Shaman can cleanse BWs but Dok cant. Doks will also be unable to cleanse Engie (so indirect buff to Engies there). Do the equivalent on order side for AM and WP.

/discuss
wait what? please dont comment on changes for classes that you dont know! Shamans cleanse is very important cos the gobbo can clease 99% of ALL slows! Do not touch that! Do not mess with the classes you barely know.

Shamans super healing on move is myth! There is one extra hot that is dispellable compare to AM that can do 1 instant tick of FE. The only thing that make shaman valuable is the extra survavibility comming from wazad behind you and run away. Remove that and you will have the most useless healer of all. Title that currently hold AMs.

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:49 pm
by Penril
Nameless wrote:
wait what? please dont comment on changes for classes that you dont know! Shamans cleanse is very important cos the gobbo can clease 99% of ALL slows! Do not touch that! Do not mess with the classes you barely know.
Got all classes to rr70+ on live, currentlly have 7 classes at level 31 including a rr30+ Shaman (heal spec). Constantly play both Order and Destro. Pretty sure i know more about all WAR classes than you ever will.

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:50 pm
by bloodi
Penril wrote: Got all classes to rr70+ on live, currentlly have 7 classes at level 31 including a rr30+ Shaman (heal spec). Constantly play both Order and Destro. Pretty sure i know more about all WAR classes than you ever will.
Penril wrote:wut... is it time for a new signature?

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:51 pm
by Penril
bloodi wrote:
Penril wrote:Concerning Shaman/AM: They are amazing healers when left alone, but suffer when forced to kite. Maybe if they could cast their bigger heals while moving? (those can still be interrupted)
That would be broken and just make shaman hilariously hard to deal with.
Hmmm.... Make a tactic that lets them use big heal while moving, but is 15% less efficient on them? (similar to Gork Fix'd it) I would make it like 25% less efficient though.

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:54 pm
by Penril
bloodi wrote:
Penril wrote:wut... is it time for a new signature?
This was in relation to your post that basically said WP/Dok group HoT cleansed the group. I was like... wtf? But then you pointed out it was a sentence-structure thingy or something like that and you meant something else and whatev.

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:54 pm
by zabis
Penril wrote:
Nameless wrote:
wait what? please dont comment on changes for classes that you dont know! Shamans cleanse is very important cos the gobbo can clease 99% of ALL slows! Do not touch that! Do not mess with the classes you barely know.
Got all classes to rr70+ on live, currentlly have 7 classes at level 31 including a rr30+ Shaman (heal spec). Constantly play both Order and Destro. Pretty sure i know more about all WAR classes than you ever will.
ePeen contest inc!!

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:55 pm
by Penril
zabis wrote: ePeen contest inc!!
I think it is about damn time. :lol:

I just find it funny when someone uses the "you dont know that class therefore dont suggest on it" card.




It is only valid when talking about Tesq.

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:56 pm
by bloodi
Penril wrote:Hmmm.... Make a tactic that lets them use big heal while moving, but is 15% less efficient on them? (similar to Gork Fix'd it) I would make it like 25% less efficient though.
I am sure it cant be even done, client limitations and all that.

I mean, if we are going for a band aid to heal while moving, giving healing energy/gork will fix it 0 cast time does a lot more, i dont think i would be ever use those spells while stationary, so making them usable on the move may be an incentive for them.

There is a tactic to increase its effectiveness and it may be on the run for worst **** tactic ever.

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:58 pm
by Penril
bloodi wrote:
Penril wrote:Hmmm.... Make a tactic that lets them use big heal while moving, but is 15% less efficient on them? (similar to Gork Fix'd it) I would make it like 25% less efficient though.
I am sure it cant be even done, client limitations and all that.

I mean, if we are going for a band aid to heal while moving, giving healing energy/gork will fix it 0 cast time does a lot more, i dont think i would be ever use those spells while stationary, so making them usable on the move may be an incentive for them.
That sounds good. The tactic that makes them powerful already have the "15% less efficient on you" condition. I approve of this.

Re: festering IB's

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:58 pm
by Gobtar
bloodi wrote:
Its the idea of an AM/Shaman using heals then damage then back to heals idiotic because if you spec for heals you cant do damage and viceversa? yeah but it was still fun a lot of times, you would be healing and then fire than instant law of gold, use it for quick fury+searing touch so you could down that guy in the alloted TTK, it wasnt so bad.
So what i am getting is the reason why you like playing an AM is you can steal DBs and have reduancy with your BW/SW?
And that is to justify having the crappiest mechanic that only is useful for lolz 1% of the time? I get the theory of
being a hybrid class so that you can keep your allies up with Hots and Life leach, but the execution was terrible.

Most players either play these classes (AM/Sham) to feel special in the lakes, or the aesthetic as they are mediocre in SCs, and that goes for both offensive and defensive. Don't get me wrong, I love my shaman, but back on live the only time I was in the SC A-team on him was because no other Zealots/Doks were on.

I look down at the faces of Gork and Mork, and I know the gods are laughing at the shaman mechanic...and how pitifully meh it is.