Re: Just roll White lion Why bother (DPS)
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:19 am
also wl need a delay on his pull like mara, being instant pull by pet not near from you at all is beyong stupid
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Re: Just roll White lion Why bother (DPS)
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:39 am
Yes, yes. WL is broken and easymode. Why dont we buff slayers so they could be on par ?
Re: Just roll White lion Why bother (DPS)
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:57 am
Fix engies first. Give them decent option for roaming and wb's instead of buffing slayers.
Re: Just roll White lion Why bother (DPS)
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:59 am
Buff melee sw
Re: Just roll White lion Why bother (DPS)
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:26 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5Zw4FUPacc just make Rift work like this - Engi's/Magis place is now In WB's Must have and both realms have the ultimate pull. Reduxing ae cap also this becomes much more powerful.malmar wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:57 am Fix engies first. Give them decent option for roaming and wb's instead of buffing slayers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n9wm3uHmgk WL is fixed when the pet works like this, and Wl doesnt have 360 degree armour ignoring Aoe abilities but will decimate you in single target and not even sh can do WL mobility.
Re: Just roll White lion Why bother (DPS)
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:28 pm
Does anyone know how the WL pull works? I purposely spec'd to 87% dodge (while HTL). Lions are 100% pull vs me while I HTL away from them. Isn't Dodge 360 degrees? Is something messed up with fetch where it bypasses Dodge if from behind? It's instant, almost like it doesn't even do an avoidance check based on the target position...
Re: Just roll White lion Why bother (DPS)
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:34 pm
Illuminati wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:28 pm Does anyone know how the WL pull works? I purposely spec'd to 87% dodge (while HTL). Lions are 100% pull vs me while I HTL away from them. Isn't Dodge 360 degrees? Is something messed up with fetch where it bypasses Dodge if from behind? It's instant, almost like it doesn't even do an avoidance check based on the target position...
From what I know, it works with parry/parry_strikethrough compared to Mara's pull that works with disrupt/parry_strikethrough.
Not only that, but it does its avoidance check with respect to the WL player and not his pet.
As such, HtL does nothing against it and your best hope at avoiding it is to either CC the pet (if possible) or to turn and look at the WL player in hopes of parrying (or blocking it if you are a tank/sDok).
Re: Just roll White lion Why bother (DPS)
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:08 pm
That's pretty broken. Ugh this game sometimes. Like running uphill non-stop with all the overpowered subtleties.leftayparxoun wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:34 pmIlluminati wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:28 pm Does anyone know how the WL pull works? I purposely spec'd to 87% dodge (while HTL). Lions are 100% pull vs me while I HTL away from them. Isn't Dodge 360 degrees? Is something messed up with fetch where it bypasses Dodge if from behind? It's instant, almost like it doesn't even do an avoidance check based on the target position...
From what I know, it works with parry/parry_strikethrough compared to Mara's pull that works with disrupt/parry_strikethrough.
Not only that, but it does its avoidance check with respect to the WL player and not his pet.
As such, HtL does nothing against it and your best hope at avoiding it is to either CC the pet (if possible) or to turn and look at the WL player in hopes of parrying (or blocking it if you are a tank/sDok).
Re: Just roll White lion Why bother (DPS)
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:42 pm
On the other hand, when you are funneling or just have enough AoE around, you are (almost) completely immune to WL pull, unless there is some dedicated crazy WL ready to sacrifice his combat potential just to send destro a message.Illuminati wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:08 pmThat's pretty broken. Ugh this game sometimes. Like running uphill non-stop with all the overpowered subtleties.leftayparxoun wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:34 pmIlluminati wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:28 pm Does anyone know how the WL pull works? I purposely spec'd to 87% dodge (while HTL). Lions are 100% pull vs me while I HTL away from them. Isn't Dodge 360 degrees? Is something messed up with fetch where it bypasses Dodge if from behind? It's instant, almost like it doesn't even do an avoidance check based on the target position...
From what I know, it works with parry/parry_strikethrough compared to Mara's pull that works with disrupt/parry_strikethrough.
Not only that, but it does its avoidance check with respect to the WL player and not his pet.
As such, HtL does nothing against it and your best hope at avoiding it is to either CC the pet (if possible) or to turn and look at the WL player in hopes of parrying (or blocking it if you are a tank/sDok).
Re: Just roll White lion Why bother (DPS)
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:20 pm
To put it simply, either the WL is broken and overpowered, or the other classes are just seriously lagging behind while the WL is actually balanced. But either way, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a real pain to fight a class where you can just smash your face on the keyboard and still pull off something decent.