Return of Reckoning

magter3001 wrote:I think this chart is self explanatory... no bias at all
EDIT: A little exaggeration on some things, I admit.

dat dok/wp spread :^)

Jaycub wrote:

magter3001 wrote:I think this chart is self explanatory... no bias at all
EDIT: A little exaggeration on some things, I admit.

dat dok/wp spread :^)

Jaycub wrote:

Coryphaus wrote:Jay I'm amused you rank chops next to slayers

School me, I don't play any of either. Choppa should be doing more dps than slayer right now? And slayer should have better utility? That's what I put it up as anyways.

Also make a chart lazy bones!

If this was live then yes but atm no

Slayers for utility have shatter limbs and the -25% ap cost grp ability

For dmg slayers have wild gambit tactic and rampage

Chops have aa haste which isn't as useful as It can be quite just yet they can get chop fasta but the ability is trash
Damage wise stab you gooder would theoretically let as good as slayer but the problem is that crit chance is still extremely low atm and their are no rr points or +crit chance gear bar sc weps so the tactic isn't that good yet either and if you do want to use a crit based tactic then your better off using jagged edge still atm

So slayer still has better utility and dps atm

I wish the cap was 27 so I could get strong finish, 20% crit chance on a basic slasha with reckless blow would be awsome

Jaycub wrote:

Coryphaus wrote:Jay I'm amused you rank chops next to slayers

School me, I don't play any of either. Choppa should be doing more dps than slayer right now? And slayer should have better utility? That's what I put it up as anyways.

Also make a chart lazy bones!

The only way a Choppa will do more dps than a Slayer is if he's grouped with a mara with the armor debuff. Otherwise the Slayer should be able to do more damage if it's just a 1v1 basis. If we are talking about group though, a Slayer with a KotBS gets 10% more crit when the tactic Dirty Tricks is slotted. The damage therefore should be relatively close, but the Slayer still has Shatter Limbs on top of that which may not do much direct damage, but it does create a chain reaction of trouble for an enemy group.

no clue what you guys thought when you ranked mrd, either you're not able to play him correctly or you have no clue how strong this class just got a few days before (even more yesterday). but well i won't argue since everyone got his own opinion

also choppa dmg > slayer dmg, right now. utility wise slayer > choppa.
gudrun's warcry < git stuck in, when it comes to group pvp.

shaman is the uncontested rank 1 healer right now but nearly 100% ppl fail on him so that's why they rank WP/DoK > as him in this tier which isn't true.
i know captain flurry and general i don't press detaunt will start "OMG OMG HE SAID SHAMAN GOOD CLASS? HE IS MORON" but i don't give a jackshit.

tankwise bg/ib are top tier, followed by kotbs. chosen > bo > sm next.

rdps: bw > squig > sw > sorc > engi > magus

mdps: mrd > slayer > choppa > wl > wh > we

heal: shaman > wp > dok > rp > zealot > am

if you want reasons for shaman:
- pit
- beste purge ig (slayer, ib, sw, wh, wl, kotbs)
- double hot
- auto detaunt
- run away
- eeeek
- ere we go (underrated by literally everyone)
- ap drain which can't be purged by wp

basically you're unkillable and got **** tons of grp utility but everyone failes at positioning and movement

wp cleanse doesn't affect mrd and offers less utility what makes him worse than shaman right now. he can't snare the melee train, he can't kite properly and considering mrd got tb + cc they don't have >>much<< more defense as a shaman right now when they're getting focussed shaman can outrun everyone if he only reacts in time and correct with his cd's. a wp/dok offers a lot more room for positioning and movement fails, also you don't need that much keybinds which makes him a lot more casual friendly

Bretin wrote:no clue what you guys thought when you ranked mrd, either you're not able to play him correctly or you have no clue how strong this class just got a few days before (even more yesterday). but well i won't argue since everyone got his own opinion

also choppa dmg > slayer dmg, right now. utility wise slayer > choppa.
gudrun's warcry < git stuck in, when it comes to group pvp.

shaman is the uncontested rank 1 healer right now but nearly 100% ppl fail on him so that's why they rank WP/DoK > as him in this tier which isn't true.
i know captain flurry and general i don't press detaunt will start "OMG OMG HE SAID SHAMAN GOOD CLASS? HE IS MORON" but i don't give a jackshit.

tankwise bg/ib are top tier, followed by kotbs. chosen > bo > sm next.

rdps: bw > squig > sw > sorc > engi > magus

mdps: mrd > slayer > choppa > wl > wh > we

heal: shaman > wp > dok > rp > zealot > am

if you want reasons for shaman:
- pit
- beste purge ig (slayer, ib, sw, wh, wl, kotbs)
- double hot
- auto detaunt
- run away
- eeeek
- ere we go (underrated by literally everyone)
- ap drain which can't be purged by wp

basically you're unkillable and got **** tons of grp utility but everyone failes at positioning and movement

wp cleanse doesn't affect mrd and offers less utility what makes him worse than shaman right now. he can't snare the melee train, he can't kite properly and considering mrd got tb + cc they don't have >>much<< more defense as a shaman right now when they're getting focussed shaman can outrun everyone if he only reacts in time and correct with his cd's. a wp/dok offers a lot more room for positioning and movement fails, also you don't need that much keybinds which makes him a lot more casual friendly

This Shaman you are talking about, is he in your dreams? I did not see such shammy ingame. Yes i know what you think! Jayzboi why dont you just level your rank 10 shammy and show people how to play a healer perfectly.

My answer to that is, what premades would you guys be able to fight than?

Call me crazy!

haha good one, that's exactly what i thought
to answer your question no i didnt see him ingame yet which is sad :< ...

rdps: bw > squig > sw > sorc > engi > magus

Would second that. Engi begins its decline.

yhani wrote:

mickeye wrote:

Penril wrote:- Superpunt

BGs and IBs got both.

BG doesn't have punt on t2.

he does. well, i got mine.

Rank 25 is in Tier 3

Also the posts you quoted had been posted before ranks 25 and 26 were introduced.

No ones making a chart