Return of Reckoning

Sarnai wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:01 pm As it's been said the regen is not the problem. Regen items/RR only works if it has TIME to work. And what needs looked at is what gives WH/WE that time.

WH: Self-heal tactic, far far too strong for an on-demand heal (especially with Flowing Accusations and Dragon Gun's AOE application of bullets) and the WE's is an absolute joke by comparison. The constant healspam is what gives the regen items time to work. This only applies to the WH, since the WE's tactic relies completely on a 25% chance to proc AND an ICD. Sanctified Bullets needs nerfed hard.

WE: Witchbrew, being corporeal damage and not scaling at all with strength, allows it to ignore toughness and armor with zero investment in the class's mainstat. Classes are balanced around their mainstat to prevent them from being able to invest too much into other stats and remove the inherent weaknesses that every class needs to have. Geared defensive Witchbrew WEs are out there with less than 500 strength, stacking toughness/parry/ect to give them the defenses needed for regen to actually play a part. Making Witchbrew scale with strength is the simple solution. It would be absolutely absurd to ask an engi to make a viable build with less than 500 BS, or a sorc with less than 500 int. A choppa or slayer with less than 500 strength? Forget about it. Any class having a viable build that requires absolutely zero mainstat stacking is a balance issue.


For both classes: Make Declare Anathema/Agile Escape defendable again, or just turn it into a snare or something. A core undefendable 6 sec stagger is just crazy.

Sarnai wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:01 pm As it's been said the regen is not the problem. Regen items/RR only works if it has TIME to work. And what needs looked at is what gives WH/WE that time.

WH: Self-heal tactic, far far too strong for an on-demand heal (especially with Flowing Accusations and Dragon Gun's AOE application of bullets) and the WE's is an absolute joke by comparison. The constant healspam is what gives the regen items time to work. This only applies to the WH, since the WE's tactic relies completely on a 25% chance to proc AND an ICD. Sanctified Bullets needs nerfed hard.

WE: Witchbrew, being corporeal damage and not scaling at all with strength, allows it to ignore toughness and armor with zero investment in the class's mainstat. Classes are balanced around their mainstat to prevent them from being able to invest too much into other stats and remove the inherent weaknesses that every class needs to have. Geared defensive Witchbrew WEs are out there with less than 500 strength, stacking toughness/parry/ect to give them the defenses needed for regen to actually play a part. Making Witchbrew scale with strength is the simple solution. It would be absolutely absurd to ask an engi to make a viable build with less than 500 BS, or a sorc with less than 500 int. A choppa or slayer with less than 500 strength? Forget about it. Any class having a viable build that requires absolutely zero mainstat stacking is a balance issue.


For both classes: Make Declare Anathema/Agile Escape defendable again, or just turn it into a snare or something. A core undefendable 6 sec stagger is just crazy.

KissShot wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:01 pm

Sarnai wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:01 pm As it's been said the regen is not the problem. Regen items/RR only works if it has TIME to work. And what needs looked at is what gives WH/WE that time.

WH: Self-heal tactic, far far too strong for an on-demand heal (especially with Flowing Accusations and Dragon Gun's AOE application of bullets) and the WE's is an absolute joke by comparison. The constant healspam is what gives the regen items time to work. This only applies to the WH, since the WE's tactic relies completely on a 25% chance to proc AND an ICD. Sanctified Bullets needs nerfed hard.

WE: Witchbrew, being corporeal damage and not scaling at all with strength, allows it to ignore toughness and armor with zero investment in the class's mainstat. Classes are balanced around their mainstat to prevent them from being able to invest too much into other stats and remove the inherent weaknesses that every class needs to have. Geared defensive Witchbrew WEs are out there with less than 500 strength, stacking toughness/parry/ect to give them the defenses needed for regen to actually play a part. Making Witchbrew scale with strength is the simple solution. It would be absolutely absurd to ask an engi to make a viable build with less than 500 BS, or a sorc with less than 500 int. A choppa or slayer with less than 500 strength? Forget about it. Any class having a viable build that requires absolutely zero mainstat stacking is a balance issue.


For both classes: Make Declare Anathema/Agile Escape defendable again, or just turn it into a snare or something. A core undefendable 6 sec stagger is just crazy.

I'll let you take away WB entirely if you give me RB

powerhead5 wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:40 am What about def/riposte WH? Huh? noone? well, makes sense.

Sinisterror wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:14 am

powerhead5 wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:40 am What about def/riposte WH? Huh? noone? well, makes sense.

Lol riposte on we/wh. If you want Riposte build go for slayer/choppa and u can do over 600 riposte dmg.

rrrutsss wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:36 am

Sinisterror wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:14 am

powerhead5 wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:40 am What about def/riposte WH? Huh? noone? well, makes sense.

Lol riposte on we/wh. If you want Riposte build go for slayer/choppa and u can do over 600 riposte dmg.

Wh got repela and can get m1 after repel instantly dragon gun. So 12 secs of parry instantly

rrrutsss wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:36 am

Sinisterror wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:14 am

powerhead5 wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:40 am What about def/riposte WH? Huh? noone? well, makes sense.

Lol riposte on we/wh. If you want Riposte build go for slayer/choppa and u can do over 600 riposte dmg.

Wh got repela and can get m1 after repel instantly dragon gun. So 12 secs of parry instantly